Storage Media (DVDR, HDD, etc.) - discussion

peepcreep · October 24th, 2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by monogroover

These days I could buy about 220 blank DVDs for £31.

Where do you buy these? Can you get Verbatim for this price?

**m100** · October 24th, 2010, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peepcreep

Where do you buy these? Can you get Verbatim for this price?

50 tdk dvd+r are usually around £8.99 in tesco - I've always found tdk to be fairly reliable even from the old audio cassette days through video tapes and onto dvd.

Astatine · October 24th, 2010, 10:45 AM

I've given up with DVDs for archiving. Quicker and easier to run redundant HDDs. A 2 TB disk at say 100 GBP comes out at 5 pence per gigabyte. A DVD at say 4.3 GB and 20pence each is a bit under 5 pence per gigabyte. The clincher for me is when you have to load up a new HDD with DVDs. A Terabyte drive will take a long time with you sitting there swapping 250 disks, whereas for HDD to HDD just connect up overnight and it's done by breakfast.

**monogroover** · October 24th, 2010, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peepcreep

Where do you buy these? Can you get Verbatim for this price?

I get them from play.com, or sometimes ASDA or Tesco. You can get Verbatim for roughly the same price - 200 for ~£33.

http://j.mp/8Yu2ul

**Xxphd** · October 24th, 2010, 12:46 PM

storage media thread created, discussion went off topic in existing thread

ScannerBob · October 24th, 2010, 01:15 PM

A 2TB drive is now $150 (Canadian) and an enclosure is available for $40. The equivalent in archival DVDs would be over $500! I'm a professional photographer in a large facility that has to archive TBs of data (video and still) a month and we moved to hard drives last year saving a lot of money. They are also a lot handier, searchable. and take up less room.

**billybunter** · October 24th, 2010, 01:55 PM

I buy out of Maplin usually, because they tend to be cheaper. Though tesco do have some great bargain offers on at times. I never buy cheap brand makes because they don't last and give errors when writing.

**monogroover** · October 24th, 2010, 03:15 PM

I use hard drives for archiving. It's obviously more convenient for large amounts of associated data than DVD. But whereas I wouldn't bother to back up DVDs once verified - provided they aren't mishandled it's unlikely that one will go bad, and it's highly improbable that I'd physically lose one - I would certainly keep a second copy of any dataset stored on magnetic disk that I couldn't afford to lose, otherwise a drive failure will wipe out a lot of eggs in one basket.

**Xxphd** · October 24th, 2010, 03:16 PM

I always burn on Verbatim or Sony DVDR, didn't have a problem yet..

Recently I noticed Taiyo Yuden is sold under the JCV brand in Europe..

**chupachups** · October 24th, 2010, 11:47 PM

I've given up on DVD-/+R, as said before HDD is just as cost effective, more immediate access, and physically more compact

I think the jury is out as to whether DVDs are safer or not, I heard that they only last around 10 years before you start getting errors

Prior to giving them up, I used only verbatim, as the taiyo yuden dye they used at the time was best, they then started using MCC, and the quality started dropping off, esp. with the made in india examples. I got loads of disks where there were physical dye imperfections, they wrote without error, but didn't give me a good feeling for long term data retention

now I use external HDDs in conjunction with a sumvision cyclone MKV adapter, much tidier solution than 1000s of DVDR lying around, and completely silent as there is no fan in sight (or sound). 5 external HDD holding over 800 DVD9 in the same space as a shoebox

note also that the external HDD option gives you the ability to store DVD9s for the same cost per GB, whereas a dual layer writeable DVD is much more expensive per GB (£1 per disk instead of 20p ?)

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Astatine Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Where foreplay is taking your socks off Posts: 193 Thanks: 211 Thanked 1,840 Times in 179 Posts	I've given up with DVDs for archiving. Quicker and easier to run redundant HDDs. A 2 TB disk at say 100 GBP comes out at 5 pence per gigabyte. A DVD at say 4.3 GB and 20pence each is a bit under 5 pence per gigabyte. The clincher for me is when you have to load up a new HDD with DVDs. A Terabyte drive will take a long time with you sitting there swapping 250 disks, whereas for HDD to HDD just connect up overnight and it's done by breakfast.

October 24th, 2010, 01:15 PM	#6
ScannerBob Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5 Thanks: 1,037 Thanked 49 Times in 5 Posts	A 2TB drive is now $150 (Canadian) and an enclosure is available for $40. The equivalent in archival DVDs would be over $500! I'm a professional photographer in a large facility that has to archive TBs of data (video and still) a month and we moved to hard drives last year saving a lot of money. They are also a lot handier, searchable. and take up less room.

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monogroover Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: East Midlands Posts: 505 Thanks: 1,357 Thanked 7,736 Times in 521 Posts	I use hard drives for archiving. It's obviously more convenient for large amounts of associated data than DVD. But whereas I wouldn't bother to back up DVDs once verified - provided they aren't mishandled it's unlikely that one will go bad, and it's highly improbable that I'd physically lose one - I would certainly keep a second copy of any dataset stored on magnetic disk that I couldn't afford to lose, otherwise a drive failure will wipe out a lot of eggs in one basket.

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chupachups Vintage Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,056 Thanks: 13,387 Thanked 6,316 Times in 1,013 Posts	I've given up on DVD-/+R, as said before HDD is just as cost effective, more immediate access, and physically more compact I think the jury is out as to whether DVDs are safer or not, I heard that they only last around 10 years before you start getting errors Prior to giving them up, I used only verbatim, as the taiyo yuden dye they used at the time was best, they then started using MCC, and the quality started dropping off, esp. with the made in india examples. I got loads of disks where there were physical dye imperfections, they wrote without error, but didn't give me a good feeling for long term data retention now I use external HDDs in conjunction with a sumvision cyclone MKV adapter, much tidier solution than 1000s of DVDR lying around, and completely silent as there is no fan in sight (or sound). 5 external HDD holding over 800 DVD9 in the same space as a shoebox note also that the external HDD option gives you the ability to store DVD9s for the same cost per GB, whereas a dual layer writeable DVD is much more expensive per GB (£1 per disk instead of 20p ?)