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July 17th, 2018, 04:51 AM | #1821 | |
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Trump isn't the kind of asset that intelligence agencies like. He's a wrecking ball. I think Putin sees him as a weakness, like a boxer would assess a cut on his opponent.
Spies like quiet, sober, careful . . . eg, "not Trump". No, I think Trump is just a vulnerability in American political culture that the Russians have exploited. Putin had a strangely dismissive comment when asked about Trump Quote:
We can blame the Russians some, but I doubt anyone there ever thought we'd be stupid enough to make this clown President. Nah, they were just fucking with us. They hoped he'd cause a little mayhem. He was a "friend", helped out with money laundering etc It was our brain damage that caused some critters to get up on their hind legs and vote for him . . . that's not the kind of thing a careful sober guy like Putin would have banked on. |
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July 17th, 2018, 04:55 AM | #1822 | |
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July 17th, 2018, 05:10 AM | #1823 | ||
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The point of the KGB project wasn't to develop 1,000 or 10,000 assets. Given the investment of time and money in planting sleepers, if 2 or 3 of 1,000 paid off, it would be worth it. |
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July 17th, 2018, 11:54 AM | #1824 | |
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People have been giving Trump the benefit of the doubt for three years, ever since he publicly invited the Russian intelligence services to find Hilary Clinton's missing emails. (THAT was tantamount to treason!) Unlike the lone spy trying hard avoid suspicion Trump has an entire apparatus covering up for him. The White House staff, Republicans in Congress, Fox News, thousands upon thousands of Trump disciples with laptops blasting "libertards" who criticize their Fuhrer. And Trump has the best cover-story of all. he's the president of the United States. Robert Hanssen was a Russian spy for years in the FBI. Part of the reason he got away with it for as long as he did was that his FBI colleagues found it impossible to believe that one of their own was a traitor. They persecuted and destroyed the career of an innocent CIA officer because suspicion pointed to either him or Hanssen and it couldn't be Hanssen. (They actually reasoned that the lack of evidence against the CIA guy was proof that he was guilty!). The former President of Ukraine was Putin's's man, quite openly siding with Russia's interests over Ukraine's while constantly denying he was a Russian puppet. Yet he fled to Moscow when the uprising happened, openly calling on Russia to help put him back in power and still denying he worked for Putin! |
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July 17th, 2018, 02:39 PM | #1825 |
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Trump's Treason could have a much simpler explanation than he is a Russian asset; though both could be true.
I think Trump knows Mueller is uncovering and will uncover illegality surrounding Trump and his business dealings; probably involving Russians though not limited to Russia. Trump has decided on a strategy of saying government organizations, NSA, CIA, FBI etc, are all liars. Trump is such a colossal narcissist he doesn't care about the harm he is doing to this country, European allies and all our institutions; Trump only cares about Trump!!!! I have come to the conclusion that instead of the Mommy and Daddy parties, Democrats and Republicans should be called the Empathetic and Narcissistic Parties. Trump is the "evolution" (Devo anybody?, de-evolution) of the Republican party. Each of their (your) presidents is more narcissistic than the last. Scary to think what is next?!! |
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July 17th, 2018, 04:17 PM | #1827 |
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Trump Delights in Making Enemies
There are over 2.7 million employees of the federal government. Administrations come and go, but the career employees roll on, mostly diligently performing their duties. Mr. Trump has taken aim at these folks. He plans to fire many, reduce wages and benefits, and eliminate longstanding workplace protections. It is unsurprising that the bureaucracy is fighting back. No long tenured federal worker wants to go job hunting in the private sector, which is why they put up with the low pay and myriad regulations of federal employment.
So, they are fighting back. Many agencies have powerful congressional sponsors from both parties. Furthermore, union employees have contracts and contracts are a sacrosanct feature of American law. Courts are loathe to overturn contracts and the Article One of the Constitution contains prohibits states from passing laws to abrogate them or Congress from passing ex post facto laws. I have made no secret of my dislike for Mr. Trump. If he and his spawn are soon imprisoned, I will feel that justice has been done. Sadly, his fanatical followers will always believe that the "Deep State" got him despite many Republicans openly calling him out for treasonous behavior. In the early days of the republic, he would have been hanged for some of his actions. |
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July 17th, 2018, 05:18 PM | #1828 | |
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You should hear his annual Q&A's, which last 3-4 hours or more and during which he takes hundreds of questions, some very sensitive. Quite often he appears on international TV panels to be "grilled" by outside journalists, and he never disappoints. In fact, sometimes he shames the journalists for their lack of knowledge. No Western politician comes anywhere close to Putin's level of inside or outside cross-examination on camera No one has ever been able to prove him wrong. Of course, the West complains bitterly about Ukraine & Crimea, after they themselves started a coup in the country. But listen to his answers, and you'll get it completely -- it had nothing to do with aggression |
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July 17th, 2018, 05:38 PM | #1829 |
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I hate to defend Trump, but those journalists are basically asking Trump if Putin is a crook while he is standing right next to him!
So what answers did they expect in that situation? |
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July 17th, 2018, 05:58 PM | #1830 | |
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What did they expect/
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Answers that indicate that he was defending America's interests and not his own. If you can't ask or answer awkward questions you cancel the goddamn meeting! |
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