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April 8th, 2024, 06:50 AM | #4731 | |
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Let's be honest, Wernher von Braun was key in the Apollo program that got men to the moon. And regardless of whether both sides used Nazi engineering and science, it was the USSR that had all the firsts; the first satellite, the first animal into orbit, the first human in space, the first woman in space, the first to actually land on the surface of the moon via an unmanned lander, the first image of the far side of the moon, the first space rover on the Moon three years prior to Armstrong walking on the moon, the first interplanetary probes to Venus and Mars and first probe landings on those planets and the first space station. Both super powers had an equal opportunity to do these things and USSR got their first. I mean, god knows how many people died in the process, especially in rocket explosions on the ground or sent off to Siberia when they didn't get results and who really knows how many dead cosmonauts there are. At least the US couldn't hide it when they cocked up. Quote:
Well that's the thing isn't it? Great achievements at the expense of their own citizens. Last edited by RuriRuri; April 8th, 2024 at 07:08 AM.. Reason: Additional comment |
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April 8th, 2024, 08:08 AM | #4733 | |
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That said there does seem to be some concept of inheritance, as the Picard vineyards have been in that family for centuries. |
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As for the technology, it wasn't copied from the West. It was developed in the USSR, and some of it was better than ours. It's a shame we couldn't work together, it might have avoided the Apollo 1 fire because the USSR had a very similar incident some time before that. Their space shuttle was not a copy of the US one either, it was a very different, larger vehicle with a completely different mission profile. No main engine at all, a huge improvement and cost saving over the US design. |
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Those lauding and apparently longing for the return of pervasive dictatorial oppression, purges, gulags, mass starvation, rampant murder....what are you thinking?
That you'll be the ones at the top? Laughing whilst you sentence your political enemies to death in labor camps? Or are you thinking of a completely equal society where it's milk and honey for everyone and your days are spent in joyous plenty and happy comradeship? All I can say is you're either deluded megalomaniacs or you've never opened a history book. |
April 10th, 2024, 11:12 AM | #4736 | |
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Maybe it's not the economic model, maybe it's the quality of the democracy. I note that social democracies seem to get less caught up in crimes against humanity, as a general rule. |
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April 10th, 2024, 12:13 PM | #4737 | |
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Take it from me, no amount of bullshitting and sugar coating gets past me, one who's family escaped communism in the 1950's to live in the west. I can and always will repeat my parents, uncles and aunts stories to in any even minor way aid destroying it's evil.
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Just one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitey_on_the_Moon My point is really that when pointing fingers it's important to remember that many of our own countries are pretty bad too. |
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