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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? Epicurius
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I don't believe in or practice a religious belief myself. People have said to me that I was baptised a Catholic so how can I abandon my religion. My answer has always been that I was four days old when I was baptised so it's not as if I had a choice in the matter.
On the other hand, I have a relative who is devout to her faith but in fairness to her she never tries to push it on others. She has buried two sons - one from a heart defect and one from a car accident. He was badly injured and she had to give permission to switch off his life support. Very shortly afterwards her husband also died. To talk to her now you would not be aware of it. Her view is that she does not like what happened but it was part of some plan she does not understand. She says that when she dies she will meet them again and it will all be made clear to her. I may not share her belief but if it can give her that sort of comfort, what gives me the right to say she is wrong? |
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April 12th, 2012, 08:16 PM | #35 |
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did you hear about the agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac.............??
......... he used to lie awake all night, wondering if their was a dog.......!!!???
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That which can be asserted without evidence can be refuted without evidence
The way I see it is like this: Where ever you go on the planet at ANY time throughout human history everybody agrees what milk is like: a white liquid. But were ever you go on the planet at ANY time throughout human history people have had very very different ideas about a deity. Not only are there many many different religions there are many many different beliefs within everyone of them: Protestant / Catholic, Sunni / Shea, Orthodox / Progressive etc.
I would even say that there are as many different ideas about god as there are people alive because there is simply no way to know who or what a deity is about. For this reason I think it's because everyone is guessing in the absence of anything better than their imagination (commonly called 'faith'.) Whenever I meet someone who says they believe in God I always ask them to tell me something about their God which could not be an assumption. No one ever can. 'That which can be asserted without evidence can be refuted without evidence' -Christopher Hitchens |
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If atheism IS a kind of faith is health is a type of illness or baldness is a type of hairstyle?
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I don't know about Nobody1 but I would answer a great big yes to that one. Anyone who claims to know that there is no other plane of existence except this one, no God, no further reality after death or outside this life, is claiming to know something which can neither be proven nor disproven. As for health, as soom as we are born our only certainties are that we will eventually die and that in between we will pay taxes. It is also highly probable, but not absolutely certain, that we will have to shop at least once at IKEA.
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My wife's got a cousin - clever guy , Cambridge graduate, nice person [but an utter wanker] - he went on holiday to the Scilly Isles and [ he told me this himself] had a "revelation" . First thing he did when he got back was he converted his fiancee, they both became Baptists and to this day they bother God something terrible - both his daughters [ attractive big tarts both of them] are as holy as he is.
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