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As a matter of interest, how do the moderators feel about satirical images of Mohammed/Islam being posted on VEF?
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on the morning news here in the uk, some muppet in france stating retedly the crap about insulting there prophet, hell these creatures make me sick
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If the resultant text is drivel - which I'm not saying yours is - Freedom of Speech contains nothing about my having to consume it. No-one has to listen to the guy on the soap box in Hyde Park - one can just walk by; yet his right to Free Speech is upheld. As for your text: As I implied, it's all about inappropriate generalisation. I could see that your post contained many more lines like the Gaza line. So you're trying to pound home your generalisations implying all Muslims are like a few Muslims, probably all Islam being equivalent to radical "Islam". And I happen to know from personal experience - visiting quite a few "Islamic" countries in line of my work - that they probably aren't & it isn't. P.S.: Slightly misquoting Voltaire... I'm very much for your being able to post your text, though I fundamentally disagree with some of the content.
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Freedom of speech
Blasphemy laws, holocaust denial, anti-semitism, inciting racial hatred.
I don't think publications ridiculing a particular religion helps tolerance. |
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The problem is with those who use any religious or other banners (ex: the Swastika) as a basis to pursue crimes against humanity. As a society we must pursue those people with a vengeance. History provides many lessons about not standing up to terrorism. We have been fighting terrorism since day 1 and because of the dark side of human nature, we always will be fighting terrorism. |
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VEF as an organ, not so much.
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It's not an easy one to call. Your freedom of speech cannot simply be freedom to say anything the authorities and courts like. But when some scumbag can publicly demand the death of people of whose religious views he doesn't approve, or because they poured scorn on his treasured religious beliefs, and this is being passed off as freedom of speech; then its time to boot arse.
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In actual fact the Charlie hebdo thing was designed to provocate, and thats what it did, so what did they expect?
So in a move to show defiance (or fecking stupidity) they chose to print another cartoon!!!! Who knows what's gonna happen next, each time they provoke a reaction and its never a good one. Moreover a while back they were going to print an image of sarkozys son as a hebrew in some micktake about fraud allegations, yet that was blocked by the courts so I'm afraid it really is in their case je suis *hypocrite*. Additionally the imperial nature of frances past really shows tangible racism, theres something like 30 odd derogatory words for black people but close to a hundred for arabs, I think its ingrained in their culture. Freedom of speech is one thing but as a practising RC i get annoyed when people make fun of religious figures because they don't have a religion themselves, that doesn't make it OK, and you cant blame people reacting against it. I think anyone that causes an offensive provacative event should be jailed regardless of their beliefs. |
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So I take it you are for PC censor ship of any thing that might upset any body? Glad you are not running things. |
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