What Happens When We Die? - Page 5

charliedog · October 11th, 2009, 01:54 PM

one day I was looking at the pointer finger on my left hand. I had a realization that there is a duality in my life. This body is mine, but only temporarily...me and Me.

We're all made of the same stuff and need pretty much the same stuff to stay alive, but if you get to 'know' us, we're all very different.

So seeing this duality in my life, I expect there to be something more in-store for Me when me is worm-food...probably something inconceivable.

windymiller · October 11th, 2009, 03:46 PM

I'm not entirely sure what will happen after I die, but I strongly suspect that after a while I may begin to stink a bit.

**tabler** · October 11th, 2009, 09:05 PM

Casey Jones (a steamin and a rollin) whisks us off (in the Cannonball Express) into the enchanted place of....

Jim Lee · October 12th, 2009, 09:51 AM

Hmm, don't really know what'll happen. I guess my consciousness will just stop thinking and my body will stop functioning.

**27cows** · October 12th, 2009, 10:09 AM

There's bound to be some bugger waiting to inflict some kind of afterlife tax on you. And tell you it's still bad to drink too much, even without a body to damage

**blondifan** · October 13th, 2009, 01:58 AM

Assuming technology can already take us places we've never been before I can only summise that we are as close as we've ever been to finding out. (Yup. nowhere!) Yet, would authorities ever really care to share the result should they ever actually find out? Would they share it with the general public?
I personally see this generally as akin to the "life on other planets' debacle in that it could cause social unrest.
Not that I particularly believe in conspiritory theories, or life after death.
I'd probably entertain the thought of life on other planets before the latter.

Similarly I have seen adverts on t.v. for a death clock type of thing, that summises your date of departure. What scares me (and I don't believe in such) is that these adds have been running for a long time, so I guess there are enough interested participants eager to pay for such 'heavy' information, for whatever purpose.
Why would you like to know the date of your death and how could this be considered "funny"?

**brianwp** · October 13th, 2009, 08:48 AM

Being a recovering Christian, I thought I knew the answer to that. But no longer. I was a Catholic as a kid, which is to say, I did'nt have a clue. But then when I first went hunting one winter day, I shot my first male Chinese Ringneck Pheasant, and when I picked it up, alone in a field in NJ, I looked at the colored feathers in amazement. They were absolutely beautiful. All those colors, perfectly aligned, all the variety. I thought to myself for the first time right there in that field..."this didn't just happen by mistake, this was planned". Then, years later, I moved to Georgia, where I got really involved with the church. I taught Sunday school, I was on the radio every Sunday, I was ordained, I preached, I studied theology. I believed in heaven. Then one night I watched a program that showed the Hindus bathing themselves in the river Ganges. And it occured to me, according to our religion, these people were all going to hell. These holy men of God, who had dedicated their lives to God...to a life of prayer...these men who gave all they had away to the poor, and spent their lives in seclusion and prayer..were all going to hell. These men, who were 100 times more "Christian" than we ever could be, were all, according to our bible, doomed to spend eternity in a burning hell...because they had the wrong name. "No man comes to the Father but by me". They didn't call him Christ, they called him Krishna, or Buddha, or Allah, or whatever. It occured to me at that moment that I was on the wrong track. So, then the process of dismantling all my beliefs began, one by one, till finally I was back to where I started...I have always felt a presence of "somebody else" around me, but who he is, I can't tell you. So, when we die...I don't know. Animals don't worry about such, they're not aware of the concept of death, so they don't wonder about who God is, or where they go after death. We're the only animal that is aware of our mortality, so we grasp for straws, and make promises to beings that we've invented to make us feel more secure, beings that probably don't exist. I seem to have memories of being somewhere before I was born...(and this could be a total illusion, I grant you), but I can remember being in a place, kind of floating about, where I had a little conciousness, but just sat around for the ride. I was comfortable, with no anxiety, just carefree and contented till my time came. It was good, no doubt, maybe not like the descriptions of heaven, but you just didn't care. I was completely at peace and rest there, with absolutely no worries or stress, just complete bliss. I know this all sounds nuts, but I'm being truthful. So my best guess is that when we die, we'll go back to that semi-concious state, until we're called on again to splash back onto the scene. But I don't really think we would want to. No wonder babies are always crying when they get born. Anyway, that's my take on the whole mortality issue.

**Tmee2020** · October 13th, 2009, 09:24 AM

I'll paraphrase him here, because none of the translations I know do him justice.
He's talking to one of the English kings.
Life of men on earth, compared to what is uncertain to us-
It's like when you're feasting in your hall with your aldermen and thanes on a winter's night, and a sparrow flies in one door and straight out through another.

**billybunter** · October 13th, 2009, 10:21 AM

The body is only a vehicle for the soul. When we die our souls drift into the eternal ether.

**brianwp** · October 14th, 2009, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybunter

The body is only a vehicle for the soul. When we die our souls drift into the eternal ether.

Ok, but what's the difference between the body, the soul, and the spirit? Hmmm?

October 11th, 2009, 09:05 PM	#43
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October 13th, 2009, 01:58 AM	#46
blondifan Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,406 Thanks: 55,000 Thanked 60,211 Times in 4,401 Posts	Do we really want to know. Assuming technology can already take us places we've never been before I can only summise that we are as close as we've ever been to finding out. (Yup. nowhere!) Yet, would authorities ever really care to share the result should they ever actually find out? Would they share it with the general public? I personally see this generally as akin to the "life on other planets' debacle in that it could cause social unrest. Not that I particularly believe in conspiritory theories, or life after death. I'd probably entertain the thought of life on other planets before the latter. Similarly I have seen adverts on t.v. for a death clock type of thing, that summises your date of departure. What scares me (and I don't believe in such) is that these adds have been running for a long time, so I guess there are enough interested participants eager to pay for such 'heavy' information, for whatever purpose. Why would you like to know the date of your death and how could this be considered "funny"?

October 13th, 2009, 09:24 AM	#48
Tmee2020 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Aust Posts: 4,195 Thanks: 209,876 Thanked 71,441 Times in 4,151 Posts	Bede I'll paraphrase him here, because none of the translations I know do him justice. He's talking to one of the English kings. Life of men on earth, compared to what is uncertain to us- It's like when you're feasting in your hall with your aldermen and thanes on a winter's night, and a sparrow flies in one door and straight out through another.

October 11th, 2009, 01:54 PM	#41
charliedog Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 199 Thanks: 12,115 Thanked 1,584 Times in 184 Posts	one day I was looking at the pointer finger on my left hand. I had a realization that there is a duality in my life. This body is mine, but only temporarily...me and Me. We're all made of the same stuff and need pretty much the same stuff to stay alive, but if you get to 'know' us, we're all very different. So seeing this duality in my life, I expect there to be something more in-store for Me when me is worm-food...probably something inconceivable.

October 11th, 2009, 03:46 PM	#42
windymiller Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 298 Thanks: 1,457 Thanked 2,842 Times in 294 Posts	I'm not entirely sure what will happen after I die, but I strongly suspect that after a while I may begin to stink a bit.

October 12th, 2009, 09:51 AM	#44
Jim Lee Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 11 Thanked 25 Times in 4 Posts	Hmm, don't really know what'll happen. I guess my consciousness will just stop thinking and my body will stop functioning.

October 12th, 2009, 10:09 AM	#45
27cows Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 368 Thanks: 9,524 Thanked 5,514 Times in 363 Posts	There's bound to be some bugger waiting to inflict some kind of afterlife tax on you. And tell you it's still bad to drink too much, even without a body to damage

October 13th, 2009, 08:48 AM	#47
brianwp Vintage Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: United States Posts: 1,464 Thanks: 4,856 Thanked 25,702 Times in 1,431 Posts	Being a recovering Christian, I thought I knew the answer to that. But no longer. I was a Catholic as a kid, which is to say, I did'nt have a clue. But then when I first went hunting one winter day, I shot my first male Chinese Ringneck Pheasant, and when I picked it up, alone in a field in NJ, I looked at the colored feathers in amazement. They were absolutely beautiful. All those colors, perfectly aligned, all the variety. I thought to myself for the first time right there in that field..."this didn't just happen by mistake, this was planned". Then, years later, I moved to Georgia, where I got really involved with the church. I taught Sunday school, I was on the radio every Sunday, I was ordained, I preached, I studied theology. I believed in heaven. Then one night I watched a program that showed the Hindus bathing themselves in the river Ganges. And it occured to me, according to our religion, these people were all going to hell. These holy men of God, who had dedicated their lives to God...to a life of prayer...these men who gave all they had away to the poor, and spent their lives in seclusion and prayer..were all going to hell. These men, who were 100 times more "Christian" than we ever could be, were all, according to our bible, doomed to spend eternity in a burning hell...because they had the wrong name. "No man comes to the Father but by me". They didn't call him Christ, they called him Krishna, or Buddha, or Allah, or whatever. It occured to me at that moment that I was on the wrong track. So, then the process of dismantling all my beliefs began, one by one, till finally I was back to where I started...I have always felt a presence of "somebody else" around me, but who he is, I can't tell you. So, when we die...I don't know. Animals don't worry about such, they're not aware of the concept of death, so they don't wonder about who God is, or where they go after death. We're the only animal that is aware of our mortality, so we grasp for straws, and make promises to beings that we've invented to make us feel more secure, beings that probably don't exist. I seem to have memories of being somewhere before I was born...(and this could be a total illusion, I grant you), but I can remember being in a place, kind of floating about, where I had a little conciousness, but just sat around for the ride. I was comfortable, with no anxiety, just carefree and contented till my time came. It was good, no doubt, maybe not like the descriptions of heaven, but you just didn't care. I was completely at peace and rest there, with absolutely no worries or stress, just complete bliss. I know this all sounds nuts, but I'm being truthful. So my best guess is that when we die, we'll go back to that semi-concious state, until we're called on again to splash back onto the scene. But I don't really think we would want to. No wonder babies are always crying when they get born. Anyway, that's my take on the whole mortality issue.

October 13th, 2009, 10:21 AM	#49
billybunter R.I.P. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gone But Not Forgotten Posts: 14,404 Thanks: 51,687 Thanked 252,372 Times in 14,171 Posts	The body is only a vehicle for the soul. When we die our souls drift into the eternal ether.