President Donald Trump's Final Days...

[HugoHackenbush]

From what I read on social media, 100% accurate.

[Rogerbh]

I am hoping that the authorities are keeping an eye out on the stock market trades being made by Trump and his associates. These trade tariff spats are causing the market to rise and drop depending on what he is saying and the prick is not above using his power to make some more money for himself and his friends/family.

[tsunamiSD]

Having been bombarded in the paper over the past month with 'he said - she said - lawyers said', this is what I've gotten out of it...

Porn Star Stormy Daniels says she and Donald Trump had an affair. Donald Trump says they did not.
Just before the election, she accepted $130,000 from Donald Trump's attorney Michael Cohen to deny that the alleged affair ever happened. After that, she sometimes denied it and sometimes did not. More recently, she has said they did have the affair and she is suing to have the agreement declared void so she can talk about it all she wants. Cohen is suing her for violating the agreement.
The money was put up by Cohen who mortgaged his home to raise it because he cared about his client Trump, who he says did not know anything about this. Cohen was not reimbursed for this amount by Trump or the Trump campaign. Various other sums paid to him which seem to total around $130,000 were not for that purpose. Trump also says he knew nothing about this.
The agreement was between a "David Dennison" and a "Peggy Peterson" and a side letter identified David Dennison as Donald Trump and Peggy Peterson as Stephanie Clifford, which is the real name of Stormy Daniels. The use of the aliases was to outsmart anyone who might get hold of a copy of the agreement but not a copy of the side letter, which in some cases was probably in the same envelope.
Among the terms of the agreement is a section wherein Cohen and his client (who both say they knew nothing about the agreement) require the lady to turn over any evidence she might possess of this affair which they say never occurred.
The lawyer for Ms. Peterson/Clifford/Daniels insists the agreement between her and Mr. Trump/Dennison is invalid because the latter never signed it. Cohen and Trump are insisting it is valid even though Trump never signed it and did not know of its existence.
Cohen insists the agreement was valid because he is Trump's attorney and therefore can sign for his client and commit him to his side of this agreement that he didn't know about.
Meanwhile, Cohen's own lawyer, David Schwartz, says that when Cohen drew up the agreement and forked over the $130,000, he [Cohen] was acting as a friend, not as Trump's lawyer. Trump says that if anyone has any questions about the matter, they should take them up with his lawyer, Michael Cohen.
And Cohen is still Trump's attorney even though if we believe Trump's side of it, his trusted attorney went behind his back to enter into an extremely embarrassing agreement with a porn star to cover up an affair that never happened.
The lady's lawyer, Michael Avenatti, wants this whole matter settled in open court. Trump's lawyer (or is he) Michael Cohen wants it settled in a closed-door arbitration because his client (or is he) is completely innocent and when you're found innocent, it's always better to have that happen in secret.

[LadyLuck]

Originally Posted by Bosko C

The White House should be a place for good people, not for someone like Trump who has affairs on his wife.

Or JFK. Or Clinton.

[Arturo2nd]

Originally Posted by Bosko C

The White House should be a place for good people, not for someone like Trump who has affairs on his wife.

Originally Posted by LadyLuck

Or JFK. Or Clinton.

Not to mention LBJ and FDR.

I don't really care where he parks his dick as long he runs the country well. Jimmy Carter was probably the finest human being we've ever elected and one of our poorest presidents.

If I am reading body language correctly, Melania doesn't care who Donald is banging as long as he keeps his hands off her.

[frank07]

Originally Posted by tsunamiSD

Having been bombarded in the paper over the past month with 'he said - she said - lawyers said', this is what I've gotten out of it...

Porn Star Stormy Daniels says she and Donald Trump had an affair. Donald Trump says they did not.
Just before the election, she accepted $130,000 from Donald Trump's attorney Michael Cohen to deny that the alleged affair ever happened. After that, she sometimes denied it and sometimes did not. More recently, she has said they did have the affair and she is suing to have the agreement declared void so she can talk about it all she wants. Cohen is suing her for violating the agreement.
The money was put up by Cohen who mortgaged his home to raise it because he cared about his client Trump, who he says did not know anything about this. Cohen was not reimbursed for this amount by Trump or the Trump campaign. Various other sums paid to him which seem to total around $130,000 were not for that purpose. Trump also says he knew nothing about this.
The agreement was between a "David Dennison" and a "Peggy Peterson" and a side letter identified David Dennison as Donald Trump and Peggy Peterson as Stephanie Clifford, which is the real name of Stormy Daniels. The use of the aliases was to outsmart anyone who might get hold of a copy of the agreement but not a copy of the side letter, which in some cases was probably in the same envelope.
Among the terms of the agreement is a section wherein Cohen and his client (who both say they knew nothing about the agreement) require the lady to turn over any evidence she might possess of this affair which they say never occurred.
The lawyer for Ms. Peterson/Clifford/Daniels insists the agreement between her and Mr. Trump/Dennison is invalid because the latter never signed it. Cohen and Trump are insisting it is valid even though Trump never signed it and did not know of its existence.
Cohen insists the agreement was valid because he is Trump's attorney and therefore can sign for his client and commit him to his side of this agreement that he didn't know about.
Meanwhile, Cohen's own lawyer, David Schwartz, says that when Cohen drew up the agreement and forked over the $130,000, he [Cohen] was acting as a friend, not as Trump's lawyer. Trump says that if anyone has any questions about the matter, they should take them up with his lawyer, Michael Cohen.
And Cohen is still Trump's attorney even though if we believe Trump's side of it, his trusted attorney went behind his back to enter into an extremely embarrassing agreement with a porn star to cover up an affair that never happened.
The lady's lawyer, Michael Avenatti, wants this whole matter settled in open court. Trump's lawyer (or is he) Michael Cohen wants it settled in a closed-door arbitration because his client (or is he) is completely innocent and when you're found innocent, it's always better to have that happen in secret.

This ...

Perfectly summed up.

[Mal Hombre]

Originally Posted by Brian249x

Not to mention LBJ and FDR.

I don't really care where he parks his dick as long he runs the country well. Jimmy Carter was probably the finest human being we've ever elected and one of our poorest presidents.

If I am reading body language correctly, Melania doesn't care who Donald is banging as long as he keeps his hands off her.

Nixon was probably the worst human being elected to the Oval office but one of the better Presidents.

As for Melania,Her marriage to Donald J is a business deal anyway,So why should She care if He out sources the more onerous aspects of Her duties under Their contract..

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

Nixon was probably the worst human being elected to the Oval office but one of the better Presidents.

As for Melania,Her marriage to Donald J is a business deal anyway,So why should She care if He out sources the more onerous aspects of Her duties under Their contract..

Definitely one of the worst human beings, but probably the best of the presidents I have seen in my own lifetime. Evil, chillingly ruthless and extremely effective, he was (strange, but true) the last progressive and reforming president produced by the Republican side, the last Republican president who did anything meaningful to leave behind a better America than he found.

He has stiff competition for the accolade of worst human being. Andrew Jackson was a 24 carat swine, responsible for terrible human rights abuses, most especially the forcible expulsion of First Nation people from the south east United States in which thousands died. I would also rate James Buchanan as an especially low and contemptible person, even by the standards of politics. For sheer sleaziness and disease-vector level sexual corruption, it is hard to get worse than Warren G Harding; though Mr Trump seems to be trying to achieve lows worse than Harding. Harding died on the presidential train before an impeachment process could mature; it is thought by many that his wife poisoned him. If it is true, this is greatly to her credit. It may be that Melania will do America this service one day, she looks the type.

[crinolynne]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

she looks the type.

I so wish you hadn't added that.

[Arturo2nd]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

Definitely one of the worst human beings, but probably the best of the presidents I have seen in my own lifetime. Evil, chillingly ruthless and extremely effective, he was (strange, but true) the last progressive and reforming president produced by the Republican side, the last Republican president who did anything meaningful to leave behind a better America than he found.

He has stiff competition for the accolade of worst human being. Andrew Jackson was a 24 carat swine, responsible for terrible human rights abuses, most especially the forcible expulsion of First Nation people from the south east United States in which thousands died. I would also rate James Buchanan as an especially low and contemptible person, even by the standards of politics. For sheer sleaziness and disease-vector level sexual corruption, it is hard to get worse than Warren G Harding; though Mr Trump seems to be trying to achieve lows worse than Harding. Harding died on the presidential train before an impeachment process could mature; it is thought by many that his wife poisoned him. If it is true, this is greatly to her credit. It may be that Melania will do America this service one day, she looks the type.

I hadn't heard anything about Buchanan, except that it is widely suspected that he was a closeted homosexual. You may be thinking of Franklin Pierce who turned out to be a falling down drunk. Jackson, of course, was a slaveholder with a violent temper. Definitely a man who should be given a wide berth. Like Nixon, he was a very effective president.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the civilized tribes had to be removed because they could not keep their young men from going on murderous rampages against white settlements. Given that the white population was rapidly expanding, the tribes needed to assimilate or be dispossessed. Jackson was just the instrument. There really wasn't any way to do things differently. Unfortunately, the innocent Indians and those who were adapting wound up being punished for the actions of the young and reckless.