Remakes ! - Page 2

videodrome · August 19th, 2009, 06:07 AM

Re-makes of movies often draw peoples attention to the original, and the re-makes popularity fades within 6 months to a year. So it is not really a bad thing, but it would be nice if they did a good job for a change. I felt the remake of Amityville and The Shinning were somewhat decent, Originals are a lot better of course, but for someone that has never seen the original they would probably like it.

I myself have found out a few times that the movie I loved was in-fact a remake of a movie from the 40s or 50s. Did it change my opinion about the movie? Mostly no.

Estreeter · August 19th, 2009, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by videodrome

Re-makes of movies often draw peoples attention to the original

True, like "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels"

I didn't even know it was a remake until I stumbled upon "Bedtime Story" which stars Marlon Brando, David Niven and Shirley Jones.

Loved both films

And who could forget Ruprecht

MaxJoker · August 19th, 2009, 09:12 AM

The Fly remake was another great one , probably because unlike most this became a proper re-imagining of the original tale. Because as much as i like the 50`s film the new one really did it for me, i was even rooting for the fly at the end for gods sake . But then he only wanted to be a proper close knit family unit , what was so wrong with that

Another great remake was The Thing , mind you i say that having seen the remake but not the original. Weird to know it was a financial flop as it`s now pretty well universally recognised as a brilliant roller coaster horror / sci fi blend , pretty damn funny in parts to.
Although maybe i`m oddly unique in finding a man getting his hands bitten off , and a spider headed half alien amusing. Talking about the effects how good were they , how about so good that most of them even hold their own today. Yet it failed to score at all let alone big. Still i guess with some films timing plays a big a part as the actual quality, also helps if the studio that produced it fully backs it with a decent and understandable advertising campaign

**RyderKnightley** · August 19th, 2009, 09:31 AM

I'd love to see a re-make of The War of the Worlds, based of the book rather than gung ho shit. The 50's version should never have been given the title. The only resemblance to the novel was an invasion from Mars. Never watched the re-make on principle. The novel by H.G. Wells was one of the best books I have ever read. I was almost believing that the invasion actually happened in Victorian times. What an author.

MaxJoker · August 19th, 2009, 09:54 AM

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It depends on the talent of the filmmaker really. Martin Scorsese's version of Cape Fear was a lot better than the original mind you.

Nick Nolte wasn't so innocent (remember the tension scenes with Jessica lange?) and that added to the depth of the character.

That said, I would love Alfred Hitchcock being around and re-do Malice. Remember that great but under-estimated movie of the 90s?

Have to disagree with you there (Which be cool and what discussion is all about ) as i found the original more sinister than the remake overall , also the pairing of Mitchum and Peck was i thought superior to DeNero and Nolte also i felt more believable as well. I mean didn`t anybody else feel DeNero hammed his role up to the hilt ?, and god couldn`t he at least have toned down his trade make squints for the part of Cady ?. Anyway for me at least i preferred the first setting , because what`s better to watch than a nice calm tranquil family pool of happiness suddenly get a dirty big rock thrown into the middle of it ?. The re-makes central family was much too fractured to begin with for me (Wouldn`t have cared who lived or died by the end ), and sure i worked out the subtext that this particular dirty stone didn`t so much as cause massive ripples as bring the family back together but still

Oh and i remember Malice , Kidman never looked better . Baldwin stole the scenes he was in , plus a blind kid saw it all

MrKinkade · August 19th, 2009, 10:36 AM

They should have never remaked Hardcore dir Paul Schrader starring George C Scott and Peter Boyle
an introspective look at the 70's burgeoning HC skin flicks with some black humor thrown in as well.
The remake with Nick Cage was total garbage in comparison. Get Carter with Sylvester Stallone the less said the better!
They should re-make soylent green dam fine storyline and very relevant of whats going on with the climate change and the multi-nationals that are raping the earth.

MaxJoker · August 19th, 2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MrKinkade

They should have never remaked Hardcore dir Paul Schrader starring George C Scott and Peter Boyle
an introspective look at the 70's burgeoning HC skin flicks with some black humor thrown in as well.
The remake with Nick Cage was total garbage in comparison. Get Carter with Sylvester Stallone the less said the better!
They should re-make soylent green dam fine storyline and very relevant of whats going on with the climate change and the multi-nationals that are raping the earth.

They remade Hardcore and Nick ( Hair line drawing back in horror at the face ) Cage starred in it

.Trying to think what i`ve seen him in that`s been similar . Do you mean that film 8mm

Was that a remake of Hardcore ?, no couldn`t have been surely. It was as different to Hardcore as the proverbial chalk and cheese. Hell if it was a remake though then that has to be as bad as they get

As for a possible re-doing of Soylent Green well i`d be against it , sure i know they could crank up the climate change angle and conglomeration control aspect. But let`s be honest it`s been done already it other films, and even in a few documentary ones. Also which lead actors could they gather together that`d hold a candle to the Charlton Heston , Edward G. Robinson and Leight Taylor- Young triple whammy ?

avidfan · August 19th, 2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MrKinkade

They should re-make soylent green dam fine storyline and very relevant of whats going on with the climate change and the multi-nationals that are raping the earth.

when i watch films i like to escape from real life...

**NelsonsGoodeye** · August 19th, 2009, 02:30 PM

I didn't know untill ages after I first saw the 1939 classic, with Charles Laughton, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxWoOQt7dLw that this film was in fact a remake of the 1923 silent movie, starring Lon Chaney, (which I haven't seen).
There have been any number of "re-tellings" of the tale since then, but no-one comes close to Charles Laughtons performance!

MrKinkade · August 19th, 2009, 02:32 PM

Posted by GrenSkull

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Do you mean that film 8mm Was that a remake of Hardcore ?

Not a direct lift but it's pretty clear where they got the inspiration, Storyline:hired detectives tracking down girls that end up in the seedy world of HC/snuff movies

August 19th, 2009, 09:12 AM	#13
MaxJoker Beloved Brother Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cemetery Gardens_Arterial Blood Lane_Rampton Secure Unit_Extra Violent F Wing_Cell 19 Posts: 69,106 Thanks: 372,713 Thanked 987,580 Times in 69,067 Posts	The Fly remake was another great one , probably because unlike most this became a proper re-imagining of the original tale. Because as much as i like the 50`s film the new one really did it for me, i was even rooting for the fly at the end for gods sake . But then he only wanted to be a proper close knit family unit , what was so wrong with that Another great remake was The Thing , mind you i say that having seen the remake but not the original. Weird to know it was a financial flop as it`s now pretty well universally recognised as a brilliant roller coaster horror / sci fi blend , pretty damn funny in parts to. Although maybe i`m oddly unique in finding a man getting his hands bitten off , and a spider headed half alien amusing. Talking about the effects how good were they , how about so good that most of them even hold their own today. Yet it failed to score at all let alone big. Still i guess with some films timing plays a big a part as the actual quality, also helps if the studio that produced it fully backs it with a decent and understandable advertising campaign __________________ My hypocrisy only goes so To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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MrKinkade Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 211 Thanks: 467 Thanked 1,452 Times in 205 Posts	They should have never remaked Hardcore dir Paul Schrader starring George C Scott and Peter Boyle an introspective look at the 70's burgeoning HC skin flicks with some black humor thrown in as well. The remake with Nick Cage was total garbage in comparison. Get Carter with Sylvester Stallone the less said the better! They should re-make soylent green dam fine storyline and very relevant of whats going on with the climate change and the multi-nationals that are raping the earth. Last edited by MrKinkade; August 19th, 2009 at 11:33 AM.. Reason: Added another film

August 19th, 2009, 02:30 PM	#19
NelsonsGoodeye Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 379 Thanks: 802 Thanked 10,038 Times in 373 Posts	The Hunchback of Notre Dame I didn't know untill ages after I first saw the 1939 classic, with Charles Laughton, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxWoOQt7dLw that this film was in fact a remake of the 1923 silent movie, starring Lon Chaney, (which I haven't seen). There have been any number of "re-tellings" of the tale since then, but no-one comes close to Charles Laughtons performance! Last edited by NelsonsGoodeye; August 19th, 2009 at 02:35 PM..

August 19th, 2009, 06:07 AM	#11
videodrome Blocked! Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 124 Thanks: 112 Thanked 394 Times in 81 Posts	Re-makes of movies often draw peoples attention to the original, and the re-makes popularity fades within 6 months to a year. So it is not really a bad thing, but it would be nice if they did a good job for a change. I felt the remake of Amityville and The Shinning were somewhat decent, Originals are a lot better of course, but for someone that has never seen the original they would probably like it. I myself have found out a few times that the movie I loved was in-fact a remake of a movie from the 40s or 50s. Did it change my opinion about the movie? Mostly no.

August 19th, 2009, 09:31 AM	#14
RyderKnightley Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,223 Thanks: 9,493 Thanked 19,340 Times in 1,145 Posts	I'd love to see a re-make of The War of the Worlds, based of the book rather than gung ho shit. The 50's version should never have been given the title. The only resemblance to the novel was an invasion from Mars. Never watched the re-make on principle. The novel by H.G. Wells was one of the best books I have ever read. I was almost believing that the invasion actually happened in Victorian times. What an author.