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Old 05-19-2017, 08:59 PM   #571
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I have to wonder if a number of Hilary voters turned off CNN / NBC for just a week, and lived their lives as they normally would, would anything Trump does have any effect over them. I mean, the economy is going strong, market has hit record highs. Beef farmers are now able to sell to China again. Companies that for 8 years spent money everywhere other than the US are no tripping over themselves to announce their latest investment. We haven't seen any protest blocking highways and calling for Cops to be killed.

Each day the Left changes from "Trump is going to start a war with Russia", to "Trump is being paid off by Russia". The media fires off allegations, gets everyone fired up, then goes quiet when those things get debunked. Hilary came out of hiding to blame Comey for investigating the crimes she committed and her followers want him dead. Then Trump fires him, and the same people are now outraged. The whole thing is tiring and is doing nothing to help move the country to a better place.

Honestly, get out of teh echo chamber, find someone you disagree with, and talk to each other. I guarantee you will learn a thing or two and realize we aren't all that different when we actually have a understanding of what is going on
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:06 PM   #572
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I do have to ask though, what exactly do you guys think Russia did to influence the election?

They didn't change the actual votes right?

They didn't prevent Hilary from not campaigning in most of the places that didn't vote for her right?

They didn't force her to lie about her screw ups and purposely circumvent email security protocols right?

I mean, I would think the Dems are big fans of Russia. Why else did Obama mock Mitt Romney during the 2012 debates? What about when Obama told Russia he'd be more flexible after the election? How about all that uranium Hilary sold to them?

Didn't you guys all think Trump would start WWIII with Russia the moment he got into Office?
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:33 PM   #573
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Honestly, get out of teh echo chamber, find someone you disagree with, and talk to each other. I guarantee you will learn a thing or two and realize we aren't all that different when we actually have a understanding of what is going on
First, I love the name. Two, unless one is a hermit and doesn't go outside all day and doesn't have a job, school, etc., you WILL encounter people of different opinions (whether you welcome it or not). Three, I can only speak for myself, but I don't watch ANY partisan news. Be it left or right. I hate...echo chambers. Do YOU watch partisan stuff that agree with you? If you do, why are you preaching? If you don't, then sincerely, good for you.

I watched more CNN, MSNBC, and/or Fox News (depending on the practice's politics) being stuck in doctors offices and hospitals with my father than I ever did, and would have done, in my private life. THAT shaped my views on the healthcare system. Personal experience. Not what CNN told me to believe. I'm sure many can relate.

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I do have to ask though, what exactly do you guys think Russia did to influence the election?
For that, there's something called reading past posts. But, again (broken record time), Russia DID NOT in anyway, directly, HACK or STEAL the election (at least I don't think that). They NUDGED sentiments, though, with social media and outlets like RT, which appealed to both the far right and the far left and made Trump palatable. That much is obvious. Is it illegal? No. If we're expected to buy into 9/11 theories and chemtrails, let us believe something as basic and plain as that as well, because it was clear to even the dullest pencil in the room.

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I mean, I would think the Dems are big fans of Russia. Why else did Obama mock Mitt Romney during the 2012 debates? What about when Obama told Russia he'd be more flexible after the election? How about all that uranium Hilary sold to them?
So, you're saying the GOP should be wary of Russia like in the past when they critiqued Obama and called him a Marxist? Remind them then.
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Didn't you guys all think Trump would start WWIII with Russia the moment he got into Office?
No. Though i also didn't think he'd be giving them confidential information.
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No. Though i also didn't think he'd be giving them confidential information.
Which info is that? Because if you are running with the latest fairy tale from CNN, that has already been debunked. You need to move on the newest story from the Left
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First, I love the name. Two, unless one is a hermit and doesn't go outside all day and doesn't have a job, school, etc., you WILL encounter people of different opinions (whether you welcome it or not). [/quote[

Of course. Problem is, the first time you start to challenge a Liberal, they run away from the conversation and get emotional. I did have a co-work who was on the other side, and he and I have talked for hours about stuff. We haven't changed each other's mind on anything major, but had some great talks.

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Three, I can only speak for myself, but I don't watch ANY partisan news. Be it left or right. I hate...echo chambers. Do YOU watch partisan stuff that agree with you? If you do, why are you preaching? If you don't, then sincerely, good for you.
During major news cycles, I will watch CNN, NBC and FOX equally. The last 2 years or so have been ridiculous, so therefore I would love to see people step away completely.

]quote]So, you're saying the GOP should be wary of Russia like in the past when they critiqued Obama and called him a Marxist? Remind them then.
What I'm saying is the political field is so split, that people come to their opinions based on which party did
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Which info is that? Because if you are running with the latest fairy tale from CNN, that has already been debunked. You need to move on the newest story from the Left
You guys can ignore this, it's just something I'm personally finding funny right now that I have to express. I constantly keep hearing "stop watching CNN" or things of that nature, and (again I can only speak for myself), but I'm over here with a broke ass TV from 2007, and an over the air antenna that gives me over the air local channels only (and a Netflix subscription), and I'm like, dude, I ain't watching CNN! lol. I couldn't tell you what the hell CNN's talking about right now. YOU'RE probably watching it, and you're the one who hates it. Anyway, carry on.
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News #1: White House lawyers research impeachment

Washington (CNN): White House lawyers have begun researching impeachment procedures in an effort to prepare for what officials still believe is a distant possibility that President Donald Trump could have to fend off attempts to remove him from office, two people briefed on the discussions tell CNN.
White House officials believe the President has the backing of Republican allies in Congress and that impeachment is not in the cards, according to the people briefed on the legal discussions. Even Democrats have tried to calm impeachment talk out of concern it is premature.
But lawyers in the White House counsel's office have consulted experts in impeachment during the past week and have begun collecting information on how such proceedings would work, a person briefed on the matter told CNN.

The White House originally did not comment for this story. After publication, a White House official said "it's not true" that White House lawyers are researching impeachment procedures.

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News #2: Comey to testify publicly before intelligence panel

(CNN) Former FBI Director James Comey will testify publicly before the Senate intelligence committee, committee leaders announced Friday. Panel Chairman Richard Burr and Vice Chairman Mark Warner said they will schedule the hearing for after Memorial Day. A date has not been set.
"The Committee looks forward to receiving testimony from the former Director on his role in the development of the Intelligence Community Assessment on Russian interference in the 2016 US elections, and I am hopeful that he will clarify for the American people recent events that have been broadly reported in the media," Intelligence Chairman Sen. Richard Burr of North Carolina said in a statement.
Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the panel, said Comey's testimony would help "answer some of the questions that have arisen since Director Comey was so suddenly dismissed by the President."

Comey's testimony was sought from numerous congressional committees after news broke last week that he had written a memo stating President Donald Trump had asked him to drop his investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

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All together now: "Lock him up, Lock him up, Lock him up"....
Seriously though, you couldn't make this stuff up...
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Didn't you guys all think Trump would start WWIII with Russia the moment he got into Office?

No, never.

I personally thought Trump would give them a freer hand at carrying out their political and military policy in Syria, specifically, and the rest of the world in general.

Why would someone think Trump would get aggressive with Russia when they believe his campaign colluded with them on the fake news that was being released to help his seemingly at times struggling campaign? The only way I see Trump acting against Russia's interests is if they were to publicly embarrass him. An embarrassed and upset Trump might lash out at Russia, that's what he does to people and groups who he feels are against him. His toadies and supporters get a pass, regardless.

BTW, I don't watch news networks and programs, any of them. I tend to read from many different sources when interested in a current event. Just give me facts, not opinions. An opinion I can develop on my own once I know what the TRUE facts are.

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In my opinion the Donald is his own worst enemy, if the latest allegations are true.

He couldn't even follow the script for the reasons behind the sacking of James Comey, the director of the FBI.

Any more weeks like this, and it won't matter whether one considers these news stories fake or not - he'll be a dead man walking.
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