Current Politics in the United Kingdom

[G-Type]

Originally Posted by Wendigo

...I therefore don't give a toss what those tossers think about us or our politicians.
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The quicker we get out the better and let's start to find our own place in the world again

Agreed

Given the deeply rooting hate and loathing that´s being shown towards the EU, you might perhaps comprehend that we Europeans tend to think that a hard cut and No-Deal is most probably the best for all parties involved.

It will save precious time...

...for us, to focus on our own projects and plans

...and for you, "to find your own place in the world"

That grotesque game definitely needs to come to an end.
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[Brecht]

For whatever reasons, the Brexit issue is hardly discussed in Austrian and German media. As far as foreign affairs are reported, it's mainly Trump, Russia and Syria. No one really cares about Brexit. This is why I was surprised to read an article today about Labour's "open position" on the issue of a second referendum. Labour should reject that possibility but Corbyn said he'll "respect whatever the delegates decide". Not an easy situation for Mr. Corbyn.

More than two years have passed since the referendum and there's still no trace of a deal. The British establishment knows that "finding their place in the world" in the form of a reduced, insignificant island may be an absurd pipe dream in a world of exacerbating global competition in which only the EU may prevail as a relevant factor. If, say, France left the EU, it would be just as irrelevant, especially without a strong deal with the world's biggest markets.

If no deal is reached, the UK will face a dark era of uncertainty. In addition to this problem, the Irish border issue will soon become a burden and who knows what the Scotland issue may bring. Like I said before, Britain's future was compromised by your own "leaders", predominantly from the Tory camp, in order to save their personal careers in the face of the threat posed by UKIP. A fateful decision like leaving the EU must be carefully planned, often for years. But Cameron and his ilk brought you into this situation head over heels and even know your leaders still have no plan whatsoever.

It's clearly obvious why: instead of concentrating on the best realistic deal for their country, they're too much worried about their own political future.

[otokonomidori]

Originally Posted by Brecht

For whatever reasons, the Brexit issue is hardly discussed in Austrian and German media.

I read articles in Der Spiegel and Frankfurter A Z this week discussing recent Brexit developments - they weren't too sanguine about the future for either side. I like how they refer to us as "the island".

[jacques22]

Originally Posted by otokonomidori

I read articles in Der Spiegel and Frankfurter A Z this week discussing recent Brexit developments - they weren't too sanguine about the future for either side. I like how they refer to us as "the island".

I think Brecht was referring to the frequency. In the UK, there are stories about Brexit every day, while in continental Europe, Brexit is mostly mentioned when there's a summit meeting attended by European leaders (Salzburg last week).

[palo5]

Originally Posted by otokonomidori

I read articles in Der Spiegel and Frankfurter A Z this week discussing recent Brexit developments - they weren't too sanguine about the future for either side. I like how they refer to us as "the island".

Nothing new about that. It's quite normal in German, and there's nothing derogatory in the expression

But in the same way you call Germans "krauts", they sometimes call you "Inselaffen" = island monkeys. I don't know where the expression comes from, but that's their low-level slang for you

[palo5]

Originally Posted by Wendigo

Their duplicitous words have been stated here many times, the EU project is more important to them than the people they are supposed to represent

If you mean they uphold the laws that everyone agreed, I agree. If they don't, they can be called in the ECJ and they will lose. That is the opposite of duplicitous

As for not liking some EU officials, we can't like everyone, can we? But I bet you can't name more than 3 or 4. I can't name many Brits either, but have the same problem with not liking everyone. Boris Johnson, for example, was Britain's insult to international diplomacy

But his successor is amusing. I seriously admire him for learning Japanese, but going to Japan and announcing his wife was Chinese when in fact she's Japanese was a hilarious gaffe. You couldn't make it up

[Mal Hombre]

Originally Posted by palo5

Nothing new about that. It's quite normal in German, and there's nothing derogatory in the expression

But in the same way you call Germans "krauts", they sometimes call you "Inselaffen" = island monkeys. I don't know where the expression comes from, but that's their low-level slang for you

I thought it was "Englander Schweinhund.."

[palo5]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

I thought it was "Englander Schweinhund.."

You can use "Schweinehund" for anyone, including lawyers

I've never heard a seriously offensive German expression uniquely for the English. Nearly all of them are comical

[jacques22]

Here's what would happen in the event of a no-deal Brexit:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...no-deal-brexit
Again, this is not Project Fear, just the reality of a legal void. When the UK leaves the EU, the Brits will also no longer be part of EU agreements.

[Wendigo]

Originally Posted by jacques22

Here's what would happen in the event of a no-deal Brexit:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...no-deal-brexit
Again, this is not Project Fear, just the reality of a legal void. When the UK leaves the EU, the Brits will also no longer be part of EU agreements.

I read the article and there is nothing there that really concerned me, with global tourism so commonplace and many countries like Greece and Spain dependant on it, it would be utter stupidity not to come to a deal so that flights can continue.