Last couple of Windoze Updates

**lagerlout** · April 15th, 2015, 04:40 AM

Had problems with the last couple of updates, suddenly found my computer was shutting down all the time, eventually found the Power setting changed to ' Shut down after 30 minutes ' from Never

Been having problems searching from the ' Start menu ' when clicking ' See more results '. Getting .....

Windows cannot find 'search query = runner' Make sure you typed the name correctly then try again.

Solution I found worked below

In "Customize Start Menu" options (of Taskbar and Start Menu Properties), set 'Search other files and Libraries' selection to SEARCH WITHOUT PUBLIC FOLDERS. Then click OK = Apply = OK.

WTF ..... freaking Microsoft leave my goddamn settings alone

**Wendigo** · April 15th, 2015, 05:32 PM

My PC kept shutting down too, I'd leave it downloading a few files and come back to find it had shut down and I had lost my part downloaded files.
My settings had been changed to shut down after 20 minutes so I changed it back to never.... shysters !!!!!

**lagerlout** · April 16th, 2015, 08:14 AM

A friend mentioned that her Windows Update settings had been changed from ' notify me ' to Auto.
Something else to keep an eye on, grrrr

**buttsie** · April 16th, 2015, 03:34 PM

Might be related to this

Windows 10 nagware patch KB 3035583 now marked 'important' on some PCs

Many readers report that the Windows 7/8/8.1 update patch now installs by default through Automatic Update

The patch itself is unchanged from when it was first released on March 27, according to the KB article. To date, we only have Microsoft's official description: "This update enables additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications when new updates are available to the user. It applies to a computer that is running Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1)" -- disingenuous at best.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/290...-win7-pcs.html

I'd be reading this site before allowing notified updates to be installed

They keep botching them like clock work and then there are the ones that exist for reasons only MS knows because the reasons are vague

http://www.askwoody.com/category/mic...ches-security/

**Wendigo** · April 16th, 2015, 05:16 PM

Amazing how Internet Explorer has gone from being such a great option to a putrid pile of turd that keeps crashing.
Microsoft need a good kick up the corporate ass.

**Oswald** · April 16th, 2015, 05:53 PM

I'm really annoyed that you can't turn off 'auto-update' any longer. I've lost the ability to make my own choice.

I had 14 updates yesterday and it took 30 minutes to install and re-set my laptop.

Then there's always that slow period afterwards when everything feels as if the system is running through treacle.

**MrInBetween** · April 16th, 2015, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oswald

I'm really annoyed that you can't turn off 'auto-update' any longer. I've lost the ability to make my own choice.

Why do you say that? I've just installed the latest outbreak of Windows updates and I'm not aware of having lost that ability. (I am aware that my Power Scheme options have all been changed though.) Under 'Choose how Windows can install updates' it still says 'Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them'. That's how I did this round, and until another round is available I can't tell that it isn't working the way it says.

Running Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 by the way.

**Moon Raker** · April 17th, 2015, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oswald

I'm really annoyed that you can't turn off 'auto-update' any longer. I've lost the ability to make my own choice.

I had 14 updates yesterday and it took 30 minutes to install and re-set my laptop.

Then there's always that slow period afterwards when everything feels as if the system is running through treacle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrInBetween

Why do you say that? I've just installed the latest outbreak of Windows updates and I'm not aware of having lost that ability. Under 'Choose how Windows can install updates' it still says 'Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them'.

I updated my Windows Vista laptop yesterday and yes it seems to take forever with that annoying 3-stage update warning message process and that worrying time on re-boot when you just stare seemingly forever at a black screen. But I had no problems with the 'auto update' facility being reset. Mine is just the same as above, nothing has been changed.

**buttsie** · April 17th, 2015, 10:19 AM

From what i've read over the years on askwoody . com it largely comes down to what software you have installed as to what problems you might encounter from updates

Thats why you should always wait until the patches have been tested for a period of time - cleared , fixed or removed before installing - their as bad as an infection when wrong.

Outlook patches KB 2965295, KB 2965270 cause Calendar problems, sync freezes, lockouts

April 16th, 2015
http://www.askwoody.com/category/mic...ches-security/

Interesting side point is from the time a windows threat is known it takes them an average of 10 days to come up with a solution - sometimes much longer

Compared to linux which can be run on windows with more than a small amount of effort to install it - its usually same day

The reason for the difference in time I suspect is MS business model of appeasing 3rd parties - 16,000+ other software programs windows has to be compatible with

That leads me to think that relying soley on their updates to protect you is just silly

Your behaviour is far more important

Since I removed JRE (java runtime enviroment) - its removal largely effects business users because of obscure outdated software rather than personal users using javascript via browsers.

Checked adobe flash / shock everyday
i've had relatively few issues and thats on Windows XP with no updates

I've had one issue of late and tdss killer removed it easily

Zero day exploits from what i've read come 70% via Java - JRE / 20% via adobe

- being complacent and going anywhere because your using the best security suite you can buy - problem with this thinking is malware is always ahead of solutions

The examples of people nobbling their own security to gain access to sites beggars disbelief
but thats what malware creators aim to do to infect you

Heuristics on av comparatives say the best at finding / stopping new threats
- are running at about 50% - random searching in the wild is asking for it

Thats a 1 in 2 shot at getting infected if you visit the wrong site

Being able to restore everything back to normal via offline back-ups when things go wrong
is the only real security any of us has

ie malware , hardware break down , etc

http://www.askwoody.com/category/mic...ches-security/

**MrLinc** · April 18th, 2015, 04:22 AM

I've got several computers at work, all on Windows 7 and receiving updates every few days, and didn't experience any of these problems you guys are talking about. So I'm inclined to believe it's related to what buttsie says about other software you've got installed.

April 15th, 2015, 04:40 AM	#1
lagerlout Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4,505 Thanks: 31,568 Thanked 73,325 Times in 4,399 Posts	Last couple of Windoze Updates Had problems with the last couple of updates, suddenly found my computer was shutting down all the time, eventually found the Power setting changed to ' Shut down after 30 minutes ' from Never Been having problems searching from the ' Start menu ' when clicking ' See more results '. Getting ..... Windows cannot find 'search query = runner' Make sure you typed the name correctly then try again. Solution I found worked below In "Customize Start Menu" options (of Taskbar and Start Menu Properties), set 'Search other files and Libraries' selection to SEARCH WITHOUT PUBLIC FOLDERS. Then click OK = Apply = OK. WTF ..... freaking Microsoft leave my goddamn settings alone __________________ Nice girls are nice but BAD gals are much much better To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Please Pm me with any of my links that are not working. Please do not repost my links To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by lagerlout; April 17th, 2015 at 07:54 AM..

April 15th, 2015, 05:32 PM	#2
Wendigo Former Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Blighty Posts: 113,759 Thanks: 259,865 Thanked 1,139,125 Times in 113,881 Posts	My PC kept shutting down too, I'd leave it downloading a few files and come back to find it had shut down and I had lost my part downloaded files. My settings had been changed to shut down after 20 minutes so I changed it back to never.... shysters !!!!! __________________ RIP Doctor Who To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 23 November 1963 to 25 December 2017, sacrificed on the altar of identity politics. The show is dead to me, but my DVD's live on If you can re-up dead links please consider adding this to your signature. It helps when looking at reports of dead posts. Please PM me re any dead images although it is likely if it is outside Celebs I may no longer have the content

April 16th, 2015, 08:14 AM	#3
lagerlout Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4,505 Thanks: 31,568 Thanked 73,325 Times in 4,399 Posts	A friend mentioned that her Windows Update settings had been changed from ' notify me ' to Auto. Something else to keep an eye on, grrrr __________________ Nice girls are nice but BAD gals are much much better To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Please Pm me with any of my links that are not working. Please do not repost my links To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

April 16th, 2015, 05:16 PM	#5
Wendigo Former Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Blighty Posts: 113,759 Thanks: 259,865 Thanked 1,139,125 Times in 113,881 Posts	Amazing how Internet Explorer has gone from being such a great option to a putrid pile of turd that keeps crashing. Microsoft need a good kick up the corporate ass. __________________ RIP Doctor Who To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 23 November 1963 to 25 December 2017, sacrificed on the altar of identity politics. The show is dead to me, but my DVD's live on If you can re-up dead links please consider adding this to your signature. It helps when looking at reports of dead posts. Please PM me re any dead images although it is likely if it is outside Celebs I may no longer have the content

April 17th, 2015, 10:19 AM	#9
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,293 Times in 12,746 Posts	From what i've read over the years on askwoody . com it largely comes down to what software you have installed as to what problems you might encounter from updates Thats why you should always wait until the patches have been tested for a period of time - cleared , fixed or removed before installing - their as bad as an infection when wrong. Outlook patches KB 2965295, KB 2965270 cause Calendar problems, sync freezes, lockouts April 16th, 2015 http://www.askwoody.com/category/mic...ches-security/ Interesting side point is from the time a windows threat is known it takes them an average of 10 days to come up with a solution - sometimes much longer Compared to linux which can be run on windows with more than a small amount of effort to install it - its usually same day The reason for the difference in time I suspect is MS business model of appeasing 3rd parties - 16,000+ other software programs windows has to be compatible with That leads me to think that relying soley on their updates to protect you is just silly Your behaviour is far more important Since I removed JRE (java runtime enviroment) - its removal largely effects business users because of obscure outdated software rather than personal users using javascript via browsers. Checked adobe flash / shock everyday i've had relatively few issues and thats on Windows XP with no updates I've had one issue of late and tdss killer removed it easily Zero day exploits from what i've read come 70% via Java - JRE / 20% via adobe - being complacent and going anywhere because your using the best security suite you can buy - problem with this thinking is malware is always ahead of solutions The examples of people nobbling their own security to gain access to sites beggars disbelief but thats what malware creators aim to do to infect you Heuristics on av comparatives say the best at finding / stopping new threats - are running at about 50% - random searching in the wild is asking for it Thats a 1 in 2 shot at getting infected if you visit the wrong site Being able to restore everything back to normal via offline back-ups when things go wrong is the only real security any of us has ie malware , hardware break down , etc http://www.askwoody.com/category/mic...ches-security/ Last edited by buttsie; April 17th, 2015 at 10:22 AM.. Reason: adding

April 16th, 2015, 03:34 PM	#4
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,293 Times in 12,746 Posts	Might be related to this Windows 10 nagware patch KB 3035583 now marked 'important' on some PCs Many readers report that the Windows 7/8/8.1 update patch now installs by default through Automatic Update The patch itself is unchanged from when it was first released on March 27, according to the KB article. To date, we only have Microsoft's official description: "This update enables additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications when new updates are available to the user. It applies to a computer that is running Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1)" -- disingenuous at best. http://www.infoworld.com/article/290...-win7-pcs.html I'd be reading this site before allowing notified updates to be installed They keep botching them like clock work and then there are the ones that exist for reasons only MS knows because the reasons are vague http://www.askwoody.com/category/mic...ches-security/

April 16th, 2015, 05:53 PM	#6
Oswald Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 13,112 Thanks: 51,073 Thanked 282,461 Times in 13,802 Posts	I'm really annoyed that you can't turn off 'auto-update' any longer. I've lost the ability to make my own choice. I had 14 updates yesterday and it took 30 minutes to install and re-set my laptop. Then there's always that slow period afterwards when everything feels as if the system is running through treacle.

April 18th, 2015, 04:22 AM	#10
MrLinc Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Nowhere to be found Posts: 629 Thanks: 6,911 Thanked 10,570 Times in 628 Posts	I've got several computers at work, all on Windows 7 and receiving updates every few days, and didn't experience any of these problems you guys are talking about. So I'm inclined to believe it's related to what buttsie says about other software you've got installed. __________________ Who farted?

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