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Old February 12th, 2016, 12:16 AM   #24121
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1) Well, I've known about Bernie for a long time now (at least five to ten years). He's appeared on Thom Hartmann's radio show on Fridays and has answered questions from listeners in all that time. So, at least to me, he's not new.

2) Well, miracles do happen. If he won, what would you then think?

3) I also wish he were younger but we can't do anything about that. Whats more important is what he's saying. Thats primarily what I agree with.

Chump would be a disaster. There is no doubt in my mind of that.

I don't see that we in the US have any choice about Bernie. It really gets down to one thing. If you are happy with the way things are then vote for Hillary. But if your not then Bernie is the only choice.

Hillary won't change a thing. She's already bought and paid for by the financial institutions so she won't go after them.

It wouldn't surprise me one iota if one of Bernie's first initiative's is to break up the big banks (which must happen or we're all in big trouble again).

Hillary would only go after them (maybe) if they crash the economy again. But would she put any of those crooks in jail? Probably not. Obama didn't. Why would she? Most of them are personal friends and big donors.
The mortgage meltdown was caused by legislation forcing banks to lend.
That's why Canadian banks didn't need a bailout.
Sanders and his huge tax increases would be a disaster.
What America needs is to shrink the federal bureaucracy by about 90%, secure the borders and pay off it's deficit.
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Old February 12th, 2016, 01:26 AM   #24122
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CBS, CNN, ABC, NBC all have parent companies who are big Democrat supporters.
That makes them left-wing media.
Name names, please. Who are the large shareholders? Don't they all make donations to both sides, just to cover all the bases? BTW, by your broad-brush generalization standard, Trump is a left-wing candidate.
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Old February 12th, 2016, 02:46 AM   #24123
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The mortgage meltdown was caused by legislation forcing banks to lend.
Nope. It was caused by the banks waving lots of money at the legislative branch so they'd remove legal limitations on how risky the banks' investments (i.e. things like home mortgage loans) could be.

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What America needs is to shrink the federal bureaucracy by about 90%, secure the borders
Do you understand that those two goals are mutually exclusive?
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Old February 12th, 2016, 08:20 AM   #24124
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BTW, by your broad-brush generalization standard, Trump is a left-wing candidate.

Along with his mates Attila and Adolf!
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Old February 12th, 2016, 06:10 PM   #24126
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I had that last night,I shut down the browser,Re started it,It was back to normal.
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Old February 12th, 2016, 06:38 PM   #24127
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Hillary would only go after them (maybe) if they crash the economy again. But would she put any of those crooks in jail? Probably not. Obama didn't. Why would she? Most of them are personal friends and big donors.
"Put them in jail" is an appealing thing to say, but there's the small question of "for what crime"?

Making a bad loan is not a crime. Nor is a business failure. Nor is raising money from the public for a bad idea.

Right now, the companies that are most likely to go bust are all in the oil patch, and related businesses. They raised lots of money from investors, who have and will lose much of it.

Should that be a crime?

My own sense of Sanders is that while his broader narrative is appealing -- a vague sense that "the system is rigged"-- he has very little understanding of how the American economy works, and no idea of how it might work better.

Both of these things are knowable. There _are_ things we might do to make the economy work better, and be more fair.

Here's one idea, a battle that was fought back in the 1990s: require that all securities transactions take place on exchanges, with full and immediate reporting.

If you watch "The Big Short", you may have noticed that none of the securities that they were trading CDOs, CDSs, were traded on exchanges-- rather, they were being bought directly from banks, with no reporting to anyone else.

People have long suggested that this is a bad idea. It is.

A very simple fix for that problem would be to require exchange trading for everything.

So far as I'm aware, no one takes that position in this campaign.

Sanders also makes the populist mistake of saying "I'll give you this goody and make that bad guy pay for it". This is always misleading. Tax money goes into a big pot and spending comes out of the same big pot.

So Sanders' "Tuition is free, and Wall Street will pay for it", is really deceptive policy.
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Have the rating agencies improved since 2008?
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Old February 13th, 2016, 02:20 AM   #24129
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Have the rating agencies improved since 2008?
Yes, they're somewhat better, but they matter much less. They don't have nearly the same business rating obscure bits of financial engineering; the exotic CDO structures that were sold on their ratings are pretty scarce now.
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