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Old October 25th, 2015, 03:13 PM   #451
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might as well keep my version of Windows 7 under my control ..... and then legally purchase WinX Pro instead.
I didn't see much in Windows X Pro that seemed to justify the greater expense. Yes, you can delay the application of Windows Updates, but you still don't have the level of control we enjoy in prior versions.

Help me out. What am I missing in Win X Pro?

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I didn't see much in Windows X Pro that seemed to justify the greater expense. Yes, you can delay the application of Windows Updates, but you still don't have the level of control we enjoy in prior versions.

Help me out. What am I missing in Win X Pro?

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My biggest plus is the fact I can choose what to update when I want to update it. Video card drivers for starters; I often use the beta drivers for gaming to see if the next batch of released drivers will perform like its supposed to in my flight simulators, or if I will have graphical glitches.

Also, MS likes to send out botched updates once in a while, and would be nice to just not do it until its stable. Kind of like this whole Windows 10 update from WU continuously downloading and redownloading itself, costing me bandwidth and making me fork more money over to Comcast because it fails.

Other than that, heres a full list of differences between versions.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...b-35922c9d41bc
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Old October 25th, 2015, 11:09 PM   #453
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Hi
My Windows 7 was working great for every appplication used. I cant really recall even having to deal with any issues.
Having chosen to download the free windows 10 upgrade, it now continually freezes, sticks and often has to be restarted by the only way of unpluging it from the mains??
It also now fails to start up a couple of times , and to be honest when it is working OK I cant see any advantage or anything better in it's use.
My PC performance as far as sticking, freezing , much slower to start etc and is now like I recall when I had Windows 98 on a computer, this was not the case when using Windows 7, which in my case was great.
I have all the usual anti virus, protection as would be expected so nothing has changed there.
So I am going back to Windows 7 now to regain the excellent performance I used to have which has been lost by upgrading to Window 10
This is just my experience I,m sharing wth you and trying to be helpful.
To update on the issue as a result of Windows 10 free update issues above , after finally being able to reinstall Windows 7 ,to add to the issues it's given me I then found that my recently renewed anti virus internet security no longer worked. Having recently just paid $49 to renew the yearly cover , it now stopped working. Having gone to the antivirus site, the downloads / re installl updates etc kept failing and just would not work at all ( it was fine before the windows 10 free update) I finally had to downloader a removal tool and after many hours finally managed to remove and thus reinstall the anti virus , also having to download the antivirus updates to get me back to where I was in the begining.

Windows 7 worked great, Windows 10 has given me many problems , so I think I will stay with the saying "if it's not broke dont try and fix it"
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Old October 26th, 2015, 03:44 AM   #454
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I still use XP and I will continue using it. For online access I installed Linux Mint on a 2nd SATA hard drive. There will be no security issues regarding XP since it is completely offline (unplugged), when I'm online. For transfering downloaded files to XP I use a USB stick.

If I wouldn't play older games, I would stick with Linux only. There are some great distributions out there that you can test directly from the DVD. Give them a try.
I've been running a similar configuration for about 3 years. Works just fine
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Thanks, I have a few empty drives, so I'll try a few of these Linux OS's.

So you feel that these are better than Ubuntu or Linux Mint? I've been using them for some time. They seemed to be the easiest to install and configure. For me at least....
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I may have missed something here, but the other day I did a checkup of my system (I speak of Windows 7).

This is a list of the famous upgrades of which we already talked.

Here are the results of my investigations:

# of the upgrades dates of installations
  • 3035583 05/20/2015, 04/04/2015
  • 2952664 08/13/2015, 07/30/2015, 07/15/2015, 06/16/2015
  • 3021917 not found
  • 3068708 06/10/2015
  • 3022345 05/13/2015
  • 3075249 10/02/2015
  • 3080149 10/02/2015
  • 3065987 07/15/2015
  • 3075851 08/13/2015
  • 3046480 not found
  • 3050265 not found
  • 2990214 04/15/2015

As you can see, 2 upgrades were installed more than once (KB3035583 2 times and KB2952664 4 times).

I wonder why?

All of these updates were tagged as having been successful.
So, on this machine, there are 2 x 3035583 and 4 x 2952664.

It seems MS programmers have no qualms about the space they use for their upgrades.

But why several times the same downloads especially when they are already tagged as successful ?

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I think that the same updates which are repeatedly installed should have no impact on the occupied volume.
They are simply reinstalled.

Nevertheless this tells a lot about the willingness of MS programmers.

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I've run AdwCleaner version 5.015.
When finished, it put in Quarantine what it found.

And I found something related to BBrowse2saovve.

I think there is nothing alarming (in this case) but it seems AdwCleaner must be efficient for tracking potential sources of adware.




As to the AV, it had told nothing.
This means nowadays even a good anti-virus is not enough to feel safe.

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Your two reasons are certainly the right ones.
Thank you.

This proves (if ever we need a proof) that Microsoft is afraid of nothing (moral or not) and will stop at nothing to succeed in the pursuit of their evil objectives.

Hopefully they will not succeed entirely.
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So you feel that these are better than Ubuntu or Linux Mint? I've been using them for some time. They seemed to be the easiest to install and configure. For me at least....
Not at all. I've been booting Ubuntu off a USB drive for over a year now. But the development of the Linux alternatives for me is fascinating. The article I posted reflects the diversity of choices in the Linux environment, as an increasingly attractive alternative to Microsoft Windows.

I have to go into the BIOS on my Toshiba laptop to turn off the UEFI boot authentication. I'm hoping a Linux implementation that is supported under UEFI will be out soon. If I go buy a used Windows 7 desktop I'd look to create a dual boot Win 7/Linux configuration.
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