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Old 12-19-2009, 08:17 AM   #1
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Question Questions for our British friends

1. This may seem like a weird question to ask on a porn -- er, I mean erotica -- forum, but what is meant by the phrase "made my toilet"? This pops up frequently in the Flashman novels (set in Victorian times), i.e. "The butler came in and made my toilet".

2. What exactly is meant by the phrase "Wednesday week"? Do people say "Tuesday week' or "Thursday week"?

3. What is a bank holiday?

4. If private schools are called "public schools", what are public schools called?
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:56 AM   #2
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Wednesday week means, a week on Wednesday or seven days after the next Wednesday. The day named can be any day of the week. If I said I'll see you on Monday week I would mean the first Monday after the next Monday.

We have several Bank Holidays in the UK. They are days when the Banks were forced to close for a day in order to give their workers a days rest. Holidays for the workers are a relatively recent invention, until just before 1900 most blue collar people worked five or five and a half days a week and were lucky to have any paid holidays at all. Bank opening times were strictly limited by law to prevent runs (I think something similar happened in 'It's a wonderful life' the James Stewart Christmas film). By granting the compulsory holidays for the bank it meant that workers got several long weekends every year.

Public schools are so called because when they started they was Private education (tutors for the rich) Church schools for the middle classes (the church was all powerful in late medieval England) and no schooling for anyone else. Schools were founded and funded by the public purse to educate the poor. Over the years these schools became private, fee paying schools but never lost the name Public. What Americans would call public we call 'State schools'.

The toilet business is very Victorian and date from the time before plumbing. The valet (for the master) or maid (for the Ladies) of a large house would take their employer hot water, soap, clean towels etc so the employer could wash or bathe. Even when plumbing came in the maid would draw her lady a bath of the right temperature and make sure the right toiletries were to hand.
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:16 AM   #3
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My public school and bank holiday questions were asked semi-jokingly, but I've wondered about "made my toilet" ever since getting into the Flashman novels about 15 years ago. My guesstimate as to it's meaning was fairly close to your explanation, so hooray for me.

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Wednesday week means, a week on Wednesday or seven days after the next Wednesday. The day named can be any day of the week. If I said I'll see you on Monday week I would mean the first Monday after the next Monday.
I've seen and read the phrase "Wednesday week" several times. Elvis Costello wrote a song called "Wednesday Week". I recently discovered there was a girl rock band in the '80s called Wednesday Week (predictably, they were American).

The thing is (Do you say that in the UK?) I've NEVER heard the term used with any other day of the week except Wednesday. Maybe I've led a sheltered life.
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Old 12-19-2009, 11:26 AM   #4
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I've seen and read the phrase "Wednesday week" several times. Elvis Costello wrote a song called "Wednesday Week". I recently discovered there was a girl rock band in the '80s called Wednesday Week (predictably, they were American).

The thing is (Do you say that in the UK?) I've NEVER heard the term used with any other day of the week except Wednesday. Maybe I've led a sheltered life.
More commonly, people might say 'a week on Wednesday' or 'a week next/this Wednesday', meaning a week after the Wednesday to come. If you were to ask me today (Saturday 19th December) on what day New Year falls my reply would be 'Next Friday week', or 'A week next/this Friday', meaning not this coming Friday (which is Christmas day), but the following Friday. To complicate things even further, I could also reply: 'Two weeks Friday just gone' - I'll leave you to work that one out for yourself.

The reason that you are only aware of the term being used in conjunction with Wednesday rather than any other day of the week is, I would suggest, because Costello liked the alliterative effect of the two Ws.

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Bloody hell mate, Im a brit and I'm confused!....(well, Geordie anyway so thats probably why)
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Bloody hell mate, Im a brit and I'm confused!....(well, Geordie anyway so thats probably why)
Geordie + Brit = Oxymoron.

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This is what I've always understood the phrase to mean.
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Wednesday week means, a week on Wednesday or seven days after the next Wednesday. The day named can be any day of the week. If I said I'll see you on Monday week I would mean the first Monday after the next Monday.
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I've seen and read the phrase "Wednesday week" several times. Elvis Costello wrote a song called "Wednesday Week".
It was The Undertones who had the song Wednesday Week and in that instance they where refering to the Wednesday of the previous week.

"Wednesday week she loved me,
Wednesday week never happened at all"
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What exactly is meant by the phrase "Wednesday week"? Do people say "Tuesday week' or "Thursday week"?
You being a Southerner I can't believe you asked that! Down here in Georgia we say that all the time..."come Wednesday a week". Which means a week from the next Wednesday. Comon, boy!

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