Windows 10?

[Rick Danger]

Here's the details on the Windows 10 Specifications webpage:

Specifications

These are for a pre-released version of Windows 10 and are subject to change.

System requirements

If you want to upgrade to Windows 10 on your PC or tablet, here’s what it takes.

Latest OS: Make sure you are running the latest version either Windows 7
SP1 or Windows 8.1 Update.
Don’t know which version you are running? Check here to find out.
Need to download the latest version? Click here for Windows 7 SP1 or
Windows 8.1 Update.
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor or SoC
RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit
Hard disk space: 16 GB for 32-bit OS 20 GB for 64-bit OS
Graphics card: DirectX 9 or later with WDDM 1.0 driver
Display: 800x600

Important notes

The upgradeability of a device has factors beyond the system specification. This includes driver and firmware support, application compatibility, and feature support, regardless of whether or not the device meets the minimum system specification for Windows 10.

If your PC or tablet is currently running Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1 Update, you can check to see if it meets the requirements by using ‘Check my PC’ in the Get Windows 10 app.

Applications, files and settings will migrate as part of the upgrade, however some applications or settings may not migrate.

For Anti-virus and Anti-malware applications, during upgrade Windows will check to see if your Anti-virus or Anti-malware subscription is current. Windows will uninstall your application while preserving your settings. After upgrade is complete, Windows will install the latest version available with the settings that were set prior to upgrade. If your subscription is not current, upgrade will enable Windows defender.

Some applications that came from your OEM may be removed prior to upgrade. For certain third party applications, the Get Windows 10 app will scan for application compatibility. If there is a known issue that will prevent the upgrade, you will be notified of the list of applications with known issues. You can choose to accept and the applications will be removed from the system prior to upgrade. Please copy the list before you accept the removal of the application.

Feature deprecation

If you have Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 8 Pro with Media Center, or Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center and you install Windows 10, Windows Media Center will be removed. Watching DVDs requires separate playback software.

Windows 7 desktop gadgets will be removed as part of installing Windows 10. Windows 10 Home users will have updates from Windows Update automatically available.

Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Hearts Games that come pre-installed on Windows 7 will be removed as part of installing the Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft has released our version of Solitaire and Minesweeper called the Microsoft Solitaire Collection and Microsoft Minesweeper.

If you have a USB floppy drive, you will need to download the latest driver from Windows Update or from the manufacturer's website.

If you have Windows Live Essentials installed on your system, the OneDrive application is removed and replaced with the inbox version of OneDrive.

[Rick Danger]

I have invested years in cataloging music and videos using Windows Media Player, and creating a library of playlists.

As you read in my last post, Microsoft's Windows 10 Specification page clearly states that Windows Media Center is removed with the Windows 10 installation. Also, on the Windows 10 Q&A webpage is the following:

Will Windows Media Center be available in Windows 10?

Windows Media Center is not part of Windows 10 and won’t be available after upgrading to Windows 10. If you use Windows Media Center, we will alert you during upgrade that Windows Media Center is not available on Windows 10. We know that some users use Windows Media Center to play DVDs, and we are providing a free DVD playback app in Windows 10 for Windows Media Center users.

So I decided to chat up one of Microsoft's support people on this simple question: "Since Windows Media Player is not available under Windows 10, what happens to my playlists from WMP ?"

You'll notice after the response, the tech dropped the chat session.

Draw your own conclusions....................



What's interesting is that Windows Media Player and Windows Media Center are two separate applications. Windows Media Center is only available to users of Windows 7 Home Premium, Professional, and Ultimate editions, and Windows 8 Pro Pack, or to users of Windows 8 Pro by purchasing the Windows Media Center Pack.

So, is it possible that Windows Media Player is part of the base Windows 10 product ?

Are you as confused as I am ? I'm certainly not gaining a comfort level concerning this matter....................

[9876543210]

seany65,

Originally Posted by seany65

Sorry for 'sort of' hijacking the thread, but I've been trying to find an office program that will allow me to work on my CV which was done a while ago on a pc with one of the versions of MS Office, and once worked would also allow me to send it to employers in a format that they can open.

Maybe others know better than I, but I don't think there is any office app that will work seamlessly with MS Office. And thats by design by MS. There is an applet which should let you view most Word docs called Wordview. It works pretty well but I think it only lets you view a .doc, not edit it (but I could be wrong):

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...ails.aspx?id=4

Shouldn't MS Works be able to work with MS Office?

When you think about it the answer shouldn't be a big surprise. No. If Works worked with Office why would anyone buy Office?

Having done what you're trying to do, you only have a few options. First, and most obvious, sign up for a subscription. Certainly not the best option but it does allow you to do all you need to do. Also, probably the fewest headaches.

Second, see if you can find an old copy of Word or Office. Try Craigslist or EBay. You might get lucky.

Third, Have any friends that own Office? If you don't need it that often then maybe just use the friends copy when needed.

Of course, you could always go to Pirate Bay (or some other similar site) and download a copy. But who knows what you'll actually wind up with. Probably a bunch of virus'.

[EsotericKnave]

Originally Posted by Rick Danger

So, is it possible that Windows Media Player is part of the base Windows 10 product ?

It seems so, but...
https://www.ghielectronics.com/commu...ge=1#msg192942

[rlg118]

Originally Posted by a435843

The later versions of Microsoft Works had a full version of Microsoft Word...

Hmm, Microsoft works? Or is that a contradiction in terms?

[9876543210]

Rick Danger,

Originally Posted by Rick Danger

Apparently Word 2002 was the last version of Word files that MS Works could read. Don't know if that helps or not.

I can at least partially verify that. I have an old copy of Works which has Word 2001 with it. Seems to work fine on Win 7. Don't know about 8 or 10 (although I could probably find out about 10).

[seany65]

From my understanding of the limited research I've done so far, it seems that 'microsoft office 2007' is compatible with MS word.

The info is from a wiki page.

Another page states that :

"Microsoft Works has built-in compatibility for the Microsoft Office document formats (DOC and XLS), including, but not limited to, the ability of the Works Word Processor to open Microsoft Word documents..."

(So why couldn't I open a word document in MS works 8.5?)

and a little below that :

"Microsoft makes file format converter filters for Microsoft Word for opening and saving to Works Word Processor format."

Yes, I know that's on wiki, but sometimes their info must be good?

Not sure I like the sound of any Windows OS that comes after XP.

[9876543210]

seany65,

I'm not sure, but there seems to be some confusion here:

Originally Posted by seany65

From my understanding of the limited research I've done so far, it seems that 'microsoft office 2007' is compatible with MS word.

In every version of MS Office I've had, Word always comes by default. Other MS apps may not (such as MS's database app, it will come with a version of Office but one thats more expensive). I still have a really old version of Office (95 or 97) which has Word included.

"Microsoft Works has built-in compatibility for the Microsoft Office document formats (DOC and XLS), including, but not limited to, the ability of the Works Word Processor to open Microsoft Word documents..."

(So why couldn't I open a word document in MS works 8.5?)

Just one guess. Do you have all of the MS converters or filters installed in your version of Works?

Another guess. Conversion may not work if the version of Word the document was created on was too new. Not likely but I've seen that happen.

"Microsoft makes file format converter filters for Microsoft Word for opening and saving to Works Word Processor format."

Yes, I know that's on wiki, but sometimes their info must be good?

Here you have very little control. You're only input here is to ask the person who created the document to "Save As" a Works document. If thats done you should have no problem bringing the document in.

And lastly, if you do a lot of writing then maybe it would be a good idea for you to just buy a copy of Word. I think you can still do that. Right around $100.

In some fields (academia for one) its pretty much a necessity to have Word. Somebody wants you to preread a book or paper? They'll send it to you in Word. Sending a book to a publisher? Same thing. They want it as a .doc and in native format.

May be time to just bite the bullet and buy Word.

[seany65]

Yes, 987..., I do seem to have got a bit confused.

I was looking for info on MS Works on wiki and clicked on various links and found the page which mentioned MS office 2007, and I thought this was a sort of 'replacement' for MS Works, and that it could open MS word documents, and that their main office program was called something different!

[9876543210]

seany65,

Originally Posted by seany65

Yes, 987..., I do seem to have got a bit confused.

I was looking for info on MS Works on wiki and clicked on various links and found the page which mentioned MS office 2007, and I thought this was a sort of 'replacement' for MS Works, and that it could open MS word documents, and that their main office program was called something different!

Years ago, I used to teach OS and different office applications to adults that worked for several large insurance companies. At that time there was still a competitive market between three different companies trying to get a larger market share of the office market. The word processors were pretty much the bread and butter of these office applications.

I really liked the Lotus office suite and, back then, used it the most (a large reason for that is I hated MS even back then). Lots of people used the Word Perfect suite which was pretty good also (I used the Word Perfect word processor back in college, it was about the only good wp back then). But MS Office won out and the other suites are, basically, no longer.

So let me clear things up a bit for you.

Most people today (from what I've seen) use the free office suites which are really pretty darn good. IF you don't have to worry about publishing or editing then any of them will work just fine. And they're FREE!

Then you get to the MS products. MS Works is just a scaled down version of the MS Office Suite (for which there are several versions) and you seem to be somewhat familiar with it. In my opinion, Works is a waste of money. The free suites are just as good (if not better) so it just doesn't make much sense to pay for Works. Again, thats just my opinion.

Which brings us to the MS Office Suites. There are several but they all include Word, probably Excel (spreadsheet), and Powerpoint (their presentation software). Their most expensive version will include Access (their database). Just so you get an idea here's a link to MS's comparison page:

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...oryID.69403900

And, after looking briefly at that page, I'd say yuck. I wouldn't do that! I'm not paying annually for a damn word processor! Another reason to screw MS.

If I were you and really need only Word, then just get Word. Found this website where you can apparently download the full version for $110.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...150625011840:s

You may be able to find it elsewhere for less if you don't mind an older version.

Good luck.