Things Noticeable this week

[otokonomidori]

Three attacks in three months - this is turning into an insurgency and should be treated as such, but it won't be and our enemies will be allowed to continue to use our tolerance as a weapon against us.

[Mal Hombre]

I know,We could round up all the Muslims and put Them in camps where They'd be kept together,Concentrated if You will..

Originally Posted by otokonomidori

Three attacks in three months - this is turning into an insurgency and should be treated as such, but it won't be and our enemies will be allowed to continue to use our tolerance as a weapon against us.

[bloke57]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

I know,We could round up all the Muslims and put Them in camps where They'd be kept together,Concentrated if You will..

...and I hear toothbrush moustaches are making a comeback.

[otokonomidori]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

I know,We could round up all the Muslims and put Them in camps where They'd be kept together,Concentrated if You will..

I was thinking more of deportation for all foreign nationals on the terror watch list as recommended recently by Colonel Kemp who is a former member of the COBRA committee and the Joint Intelligence committee.

Robust action certainly but hardly Krystallnacht as you seem to imply.

[Puhbear69]

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

I know,We could round up all the Muslims and put Them in camps where They'd be kept together,Concentrated if You will..

Well, one could do. But the overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful.

If you do with those predictors of hate (those poisoners of wells I call them) or/and those people threaten the public safety (Islamists) will be enough.

But what's to do with those guys, born in the UK (or Germany, or France, or Belgium, or.....) ?

[Greenman]

Here is a very radical thought-not mine but something my Dad came out with a while ago. Why not stop these radicalised terrorists thinking that when they take a life or lives they will end up in some sort of Nirvana surrounded by virgins in Heaven and when they are shot dead(and I think you would need to get some clarification on this from an Imam or someone) but wrap their dead bodies in pigskin and bury it in an unmarked grave. Radical and extreme I think you will agree but then it might go some way to deter others from thinking that they will be rewarded in heaven. Bury the body days after death(and not within 24hrs as they and Jewish people are supposed to be) What do you think of that idea?

[Devius]

Originally Posted by Greenman

Here is a very radical thought-not mine but something my Dad came out with a while ago. Why not stop these radicalised terrorists thinking that when they take a life or lives they will end up in some sort of Nirvana surrounded by virgins in Heaven and when they are shot dead(and I think you would need to get some clarification on this from an Imam or someone) but wrap their dead bodies in pigskin and bury it in an unmarked grave. Radical and extreme I think you will agree but then it might go some way to deter others from thinking that they will be rewarded in heaven. Bury the body days after death(and not within 24hrs as they and Jewish people are supposed to be) What do you think of that idea?

Might risk turning them into martyrs - someone, somewhere will protest about their "human right" to a decent burial, and the next thing you know they would become a cause célèbre...
Meanwhile their victims would be ignored in all the publicity generated.

Personally I'd wrap them in some old Tarpaulin and dump them at sea (but then the "human right" protests will start again....)

But I digress - from the BBC:

Controlled explosions were carried out at the flat in Barking during the raids on Sunday morning.

According to neighbours, the dead attacker lived there for about three years and was married with two children.

One man, who did not want to be named, said one of the attackers had become more extreme over the past two years.

"We spoke about a particular attack that happened and like most radicals he had a justification for anything - everything and anything.

"And that day I realised that I need to contact the authorities," he said.

He said no action was taken.

"I did my bit... but the authorities didn't do their bit," he said.

Source:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40148737

[Puhbear69]

Originally Posted by rodak

Sadly there are a good number of muslims in your overwhelming majority.
That know who the bad eggs are and are not willing to do anything about them.
Which makes them just as dangerous by default.

That's not true. Only a very small group of Muslims are Islamists.

Not true too. Many tips the German police got from "those majority" about Islamists.

Although I must permit, I have never seen as much headscarf’s as nowadays in the streets. In the past I remember only old ladies wearing it.
So the Muslims turned into more conservative, I think.

That indicates:
One can it also watch at VEF: There is/was also a thread of Turkish porns of the late 70s or 80s (mainstream porn, not underground like in an other forum = amateurs) . Could you imagine such videos nowadays ?

Originally Posted by Greenman

Here is a very radical thought-not mine but something my Dad came out with a while ago. Why not stop these radicalised terrorists thinking that when they take a life or lives they will end up in some sort of Nirvana surrounded by virgins in Heaven and when they are shot dead (and I think you would need to get some clarification on this from an Imam or someone) but wrap their dead bodies in pigskin and bury it in an unmarked grave. Radical and extreme I think you will agree but then it might go some way to deter others from thinking that they will be rewarded in heaven. Bury the body days after death(and not within 24hrs as they and Jewish people are supposed to be) What do you think of that idea?

All the Imams of the Egypt universities (for example) did teach that; it's not the way into heaven with 76 virgins, but straight into hell.
Those guys are also drinking alcohol or taking drugs - forbidden for Muslims too.
Bury with pigskins or with a dead dog ... if that helps - whatever.

[haroldeye]

The lmam of the major Newcastle mosque said on the local news tonight that yesterday was the first day of Ramadan and all good Moslems should have been ar prayers. Therefore the people who were intent on slaughter were not good moslems.

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by Puhbear69

Those guys are also drinking alcohol or taking drugs - forbidden for Muslims too.

This is why I separate the pawns from ISIS itself. The pawns for the most part are not devout, they are more outcasts from society who end up claiming the religion and links up with ISIS due more with their anger with society than the western world's violation of the religion. ISIS for their parts want the European nations to treat the Middle Eastern and South Eastern immigrants as bad as possible. It gives them propaganda to spread, "See how the western world treats us. Why would you ever want to go there?" Also the worse the immigrants are treated the more sympathetic some will be to them and those sympathizers will also be future recruits for their cause.