Are the Nazi themes in porn offensive for You? - Page 3

eeeepzbgzoz · December 4th, 2009, 04:12 AM

I really don't find any one theme in porn offensive. If it's not "my cup of tea" I simply don't look at it.

Clawhammer · December 4th, 2009, 06:49 AM

I was actually surprised by that Poll result...I thought it would've been more 'even'.

IMHO.. like has already been said... the NAZI stuff these days is really just for BDSM Fetish 'affect' now... and nothing removes stigma or 'levels the playing field' like some rumpy-pumpy :-).

NAZI's behaved in the most repulsive way... they got their arses kicked big time... their crimes are being paid for by the shame of generations of Germans. But they had cool uniforms and made some pretty cool stuff... It's OK to appreciate that... our grandparents fought (and many died) for our right to do that. I'd be a shame to waste that freedom.

Don't forget, the actor that played Col Klink in Hogan's Hero's was Jewish... he insisted he would only do the part if he could lampoon the character... he knew laughter was the best way to remove the power of the uniform/position.

chromax · February 2nd, 2010, 03:59 PM

I have had a vid deleted in the soft section because of its Nazisploitation content. As I said to one of that section mods I can understand Nazi stuff can harm many people's sensibility but I do think that given one decision to delete a post this should be applied to all Nazisploitation and Nazi porn at VEF, else I'd be the only one to, say, pay.

macrinius · February 2nd, 2010, 04:42 PM

No, they are not offensive. They are just a bit of fantasy, and since much of bondage fantasy involves non-consensual sex then no-one involved, (voyeurs or providers) has got any right to complain about the setting.

This isn't the forum to discuss the rights or wrongs committed by people long ago, or else are we going to ban "lustful turk", or "raped by the taliban" scenarios.

I watched an American documentary recently, "The War". After the Battle of the Bulge, American officers ordered the murder of captured German soldiers!
So, are we going to exclude American porn?

I don't think so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pablo6989

Hello

As in the title:

Are the Nazi themes in porn offensive for You Guys?
I mean stuff like Nazi uniforms (Gestapo, SS, Swastika symbols and so) some kind of fetisch wear or latex in nazi style (i.e. something like ELite Guards in RTCW video game)
and also themes like domination.
Generally just aporn but in Nazi/WwII set-up

Is it annoying/discusting for you?

Yes/no? and why?

Greets

**Sharkhunter** · February 2nd, 2010, 04:54 PM

I am interested in the subject matter and history in general, but as far as I am concerned it has nothing to do with my interests in porn. One goes down the Piccadilly and the other down the Bakerloo.

The fetish genre in general does nothing for me - but diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks and all that.

**Pepper II** · February 2nd, 2010, 09:20 PM

An individual's personal taste cannot be legislated and a pornography forum is hardly the place to be practicing censorship. ...and that's all I have to say about that.

coolhandluke · February 3rd, 2010, 07:26 PM

Every country has its skeletons in the closet. Even the jews. So why not forget things that happened almost a lifetime ago.
I opened a thread, looking for a mag with a "doubleletter" in the title. One of the admins removed it. I respect it although to my mind it is exaggerated.
As long as it legal, why not.

luke

**chupachups** · February 4th, 2010, 01:47 AM

offensive ? no

turn-off ? yes

I have an extensive porn collection and have allsorts, but I do not DL any nazi themed stuff, nor latex stuff. I don't find it offensive, it just doesn't turn me on, producers would have to go back to mainstream porn to make any money from me

Alvin Lucifer · February 4th, 2010, 02:54 AM

Generally no. But I don't like it at all. I find it silly. The reason I find it silly is it seems to be done for shock value, thus, it does not offend me. If I had relatives/ancestors who were actually persecuted by the Nazis, then it might offend me personally. If the producers of the porn actually did endorse white supremacy, I would find that offensive. The original Nazi party was destroyed. However, skinheads, white power, and neo-Nazi groups still exist. If they were making pornography, I would be totally grossed out. Ever heard skinhead punk bands? Pretty bad. If their porn was as bad as their music that would be, well, pretty bad!

Mnofsou · February 4th, 2010, 04:23 AM

I see that there are a lot of people who consider "the Nazis" as something very, veeeery distant in time and space.

I have a different point of vue, because I'm from one of those countries that have been ravaged by the Germans during World War II. And I know many living people who saw the German crimes with their own eyes, e.g. my grand mother who - as a young girl - was looking at several mass executions - innocent civilians hanged, shot or burned alive - not because she was curious, but because the Germans forced the local people to look - anyone who wasn't looking was beaten. My father - as a little boy - was looking every day, just across the street, at a German camp for Soviet POWs: a large square without any buildings, surrounded with barbed wire, where thousands of Soviet POWs were dying of starvation under rain and snow... In my hometown, the Germans killed around 30% of the population.

Clawhammer is writing that the Nazis "got their arses kicked big time... their crimes are being paid".
You're wrong Clawhammer.
The majority of German (and Austrian) war criminals went scot-free. A few days ago I have read about a German policeman, responsible for murdering dozens of thousands of civilians in Eastern Europe, who has been sentenced by a German court in the 1960s. Sentenced for 6 years of prison, but soon released, because the poor old man was ill.
The majority of their crimes were not paid. The case is not close.

I would not say that the Nazi themes are "offensive" for me.
I would rather say "disgusting" or "sickening".

View Poll Results: Are the Nazi themes in porn offensive for You?
Yes	79	20.95%
No	298	79.05%
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December 4th, 2009, 04:12 AM	#21
eeeepzbgzoz Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 13 Thanks: 1,021 Thanked 131 Times in 13 Posts	I really don't find any one theme in porn offensive. If it's not "my cup of tea" I simply don't look at it.

December 4th, 2009, 06:49 AM	#22
Clawhammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 104 Thanks: 5,274 Thanked 2,568 Times in 99 Posts	I was actually surprised by that Poll result...I thought it would've been more 'even'. IMHO.. like has already been said... the NAZI stuff these days is really just for BDSM Fetish 'affect' now... and nothing removes stigma or 'levels the playing field' like some rumpy-pumpy :-). NAZI's behaved in the most repulsive way... they got their arses kicked big time... their crimes are being paid for by the shame of generations of Germans. But they had cool uniforms and made some pretty cool stuff... It's OK to appreciate that... our grandparents fought (and many died) for our right to do that. I'd be a shame to waste that freedom. Don't forget, the actor that played Col Klink in Hogan's Hero's was Jewish... he insisted he would only do the part if he could lampoon the character... he knew laughter was the best way to remove the power of the uniform/position.

February 2nd, 2010, 03:59 PM	#23
chromax Blocked! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 10,450 Thanks: 34,188 Thanked 260,239 Times in 10,448 Posts	I have had a vid deleted in the soft section because of its Nazisploitation content. As I said to one of that section mods I can understand Nazi stuff can harm many people's sensibility but I do think that given one decision to delete a post this should be applied to all Nazisploitation and Nazi porn at VEF, else I'd be the only one to, say, pay.

February 2nd, 2010, 09:20 PM	#26
Pepper II Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 7,853 Thanks: 163,978 Thanked 119,257 Times in 7,642 Posts	An individual's personal taste cannot be legislated and a pornography forum is hardly the place to be practicing censorship. ...and that's all I have to say about that.

February 3rd, 2010, 07:26 PM	#27
coolhandluke Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 24 Times in 6 Posts	Every country has its skeletons in the closet. Even the jews. So why not forget things that happened almost a lifetime ago. I opened a thread, looking for a mag with a "doubleletter" in the title. One of the admins removed it. I respect it although to my mind it is exaggerated. As long as it legal, why not. luke

February 4th, 2010, 01:47 AM	#28
chupachups Vintage Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,056 Thanks: 13,387 Thanked 6,316 Times in 1,013 Posts	offensive ? no turn-off ? yes I have an extensive porn collection and have allsorts, but I do not DL any nazi themed stuff, nor latex stuff. I don't find it offensive, it just doesn't turn me on, producers would have to go back to mainstream porn to make any money from me

February 4th, 2010, 02:54 AM	#29
Alvin Lucifer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pioneer Valley, Massachusetts Posts: 373 Thanks: 8,750 Thanked 3,055 Times in 364 Posts	Generally no. But I don't like it at all. I find it silly. The reason I find it silly is it seems to be done for shock value, thus, it does not offend me. If I had relatives/ancestors who were actually persecuted by the Nazis, then it might offend me personally. If the producers of the porn actually did endorse white supremacy, I would find that offensive. The original Nazi party was destroyed. However, skinheads, white power, and neo-Nazi groups still exist. If they were making pornography, I would be totally grossed out. Ever heard skinhead punk bands? Pretty bad. If their porn was as bad as their music that would be, well, pretty bad!

February 4th, 2010, 04:23 AM	#30
Mnofsou Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 789 Thanked 28 Times in 6 Posts	I see that there are a lot of people who consider "the Nazis" as something very, veeeery distant in time and space. I have a different point of vue, because I'm from one of those countries that have been ravaged by the Germans during World War II. And I know many living people who saw the German crimes with their own eyes, e.g. my grand mother who - as a young girl - was looking at several mass executions - innocent civilians hanged, shot or burned alive - not because she was curious, but because the Germans forced the local people to look - anyone who wasn't looking was beaten. My father - as a little boy - was looking every day, just across the street, at a German camp for Soviet POWs: a large square without any buildings, surrounded with barbed wire, where thousands of Soviet POWs were dying of starvation under rain and snow... In my hometown, the Germans killed around 30% of the population. Clawhammer is writing that the Nazis "got their arses kicked big time... their crimes are being paid". You're wrong Clawhammer. The majority of German (and Austrian) war criminals went scot-free. A few days ago I have read about a German policeman, responsible for murdering dozens of thousands of civilians in Eastern Europe, who has been sentenced by a German court in the 1960s. Sentenced for 6 years of prison, but soon released, because the poor old man was ill. The majority of their crimes were not paid. The case is not close. I would not say that the Nazi themes are "offensive" for me. I would rather say "disgusting" or "sickening".