Things Noticeable this week

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by Puhbear69

Inventions, the world doesn't need !

The company of Monsanto (who else !) grew an new onion sort, a so called "tear free" sort. They cut the gene, producing the molecule Propanthial-S-oxid which is working a bit like a natural irritant gas.

They said it's tasting a bit sweeter than normal onions and when cutting it it's free of tears.
First test marked is the US.


Who needs this gene-manipulated shit !!!

Monsanto are contaminating the food supply for their own profit. Sooner or later the American people and farmers will realise and will line their board of directors up against the Hoover Dam and finally put the Second Amendment to a good use.

[otokonomidori]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

Monsanto are contaminating the food supply for their own profit.

Do you mean food made from genetically modified crops?

[rupertramjet]

Originally Posted by otokonomidori

Do you mean food made from genetically modified crops?

A bit like seedless grapes, nectarines, tomatoes used for puree and so on?

[Puhbear69]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

Monsanto are contaminating the food supply for their own profit. Sooner or later the American people and farmers will realise and will line their board of directors up against the Hoover Dam and finally put the Second Amendment to a good use.

I fear if the Americans have grasp that problem, than it's to late. Than those hybrids wouldn't grow without Monsanto (like the potatoes sorts, we grow in Europe for a while).

I thought a while ago, as BAYER brought Monsanto, they must have been totally drunk at BAYER. But they are now a similar company like Nestle, I think.

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by otokonomidori

Do you mean food made from genetically modified crops?

Yes indeed, both directly and indirectly, through encouraging increased use of glyphosate (another Monsanto staple product). Herbicides have their uses but they harm the environment and they enter the food supply so need to be controlled in their applications. Monsanto has used genetic modification to increase weedkiller resistance in food crops and increase usage of harmful substances. An early example was Round-Up Ready Soybeans - Round Up is a weedkiller brand patented by Monsanto.

One should note as well that crops grown from GM seed are frequently sterile F1 hybrids and farmers have to buy new seed every year instead of saving their best seeds for next year's sowing. By doing this, Monsanto (and others) can protect their patent on the seed, forcing farmers to buy when they would otherwise produce the seed themselves.

Certainly in the beginning GM seeds were introduced to American wheat farmers with no warning and with no controls or permissions and by the time anyone realised it was already too late and the USA was incapable of guaranteeing that any of its wheat production was not GM contaminated. This is because GM contaminates non GM through cross-pollination. Americans did not agree to this and were never consulted. Monsanto just did it. Incidentally the Food and Drug Administration's Deputy Commissioner, Michael Taylor, subsequently became a Vice-President (i.e. director) of Monsanto; but is now back with the FDA. Such a fine example of lack of bias and impartiality in public office.

[trailmaster]

I don't know why you guys are getting so excited about this. All the fruits and veggies grown in America nowadays are gentically modified and also modified by chemicals. It's been going on for decades now. That's why our food has so little taste and so many of our people have food related allergies. But buying this stuff from imported sources may be worse because many foreign countries, especially in Central and South America still spray their crops with insecticides, and herbicides banned in the U.S. How this stuff gets past customs is a mystery!

[bp666]

Originally Posted by Puhbear69

I fear if the Americans have grasp that problem, than it's to late. Than those hybrids wouldn't grow without Monsanto (like the potatoes sorts, we grow in Europe for a while).

I thought a while ago, as BAYER brought Monsanto, they must have been totally drunk at BAYER. But they are now a similar company like Nestle, I think.

Generally the GMO crops grow without Monsanto, but you have to pay them for the privilege of growing from their patented seed, not just for the first lot of seed you buy from them, but for each generation even when you harvest that seed from the crop you grew.

As various farmer's have found out to their cost, you have to pay Monsanto even if the wind has blown their patented seed from your neighbour's crop into your land.

I haven't heard of Monsanto creating seed that will only grow if you buy some special product from them that enables germination.

[CARLTON BROWN]

UK Academics are apparently a bit annoyed at a predicted cut in their pensions and some have been on the streets waving placards about. Naturally, they are talking about giving their students a few problems if this situation continues as public workers generally need members of the public to use for leverage in disputes.

Isn't it strange that they never stood up for the poor buggers caught by bedroom tax, or the block of women who had their promised state retirement pensions cut for no other reason but to save money?

[Puhbear69]

Originally Posted by trailmaster

I don't know why you guys are getting so excited about this. All the fruits and veggies grown in America nowadays are gentically modified and also modified by chemicals. It's been going on for decades now. That's why our food has so little taste and so many of our people have food related allergies. But buying this stuff from imported sources may be worse because many foreign countries, especially in Central and South America still spray their crops with insecticides, and herbicides banned in the U.S. How this stuff gets past customs is a mystery!

Simply because of less controls !

Less controls, because the US is having no strong infrastructure in those food controls.
It costs some money !!!!!

And than you have those problems with food allergies.

That's the reason, we (Europe) don't want your chickens for example.

But Europe is also not free from scandals, but after all it comes out after a while.

Last examples:
Horse meat was sold/declared as beef. It was nothing wrong with that meet, it was just the wrong declaration -> a fraud.

In Belgium, the Netherlands and North Germany there were eggs poisoned with Fipronil, an Insect - poison. That poison is forbidden in Europe in the combination with foods. The company, which cleaned the henhouses sprayed it after cleaning. Forbidden of course.
All eggs and chicken must have been destroyed/killed.

[rupertramjet]

Originally Posted by CARLTON BROWN

UK Academics are apparently a bit annoyed at a predicted cut in their pensions and some have been on the streets waving placards about. Naturally, they are talking about giving their students a few problems if this situation continues as public workers generally need members of the public to use for leverage in disputes.

Isn't it strange that they never stood up for the poor buggers caught by bedroom tax, or the block of women who had their promised state retirement pensions cut for no other reason but to save money?

Good on them, take the chance to destroy the future of the young people in their care! Good socialist principles!

This typical attitude makes me sick, always stand up for their own interests, never for those in real need, you can not legally cut an agreed pension figure, if it is part of a contract, so it seems to me to be just another bit of trouble making.