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February 11th, 2018, 02:06 PM | #3271 | |
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If Tony Bliar told me today was Sunday I would go out and buy a newspaper to check, he's a smarmy soiled goods yesterday's man with bugger all credibility with the British people.
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February 11th, 2018, 02:12 PM | #3272 | |
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February 11th, 2018, 02:18 PM | #3273 | |
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I am still optimistic that a reasonable deal will be done as it does nobody any good for both sides to walk away without reaching a deal. If not then as I have said before we should have the final option to leave on our own terms and do our own thing.
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February 11th, 2018, 10:17 PM | #3274 | |
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I suspect however that nothing the UK Government could realistically propose would come anywhere near meeting your no doubt quixotic definition of reasonable. We can see what a success freedom of movement for people within the EU is by looking at the refugee camps in Northern France. Yup, I'd look to the EU for assistance with that issue .... Interestingly almost 2 years on and even the straw poll at the top of this thread is still firmly in the leave camp. What a great success the Remain camp is also having in cyberspace.
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February 11th, 2018, 10:52 PM | #3275 | |
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To re-iterate: the point of leaving the EU is to regain direct control of Britain's borders and Britain's laws. If membership of the customs union is compatible with regaining direct control of Britain's borders and Britain's laws, that would be new information to me and I will be very interested in an explanation of the point. But in the extreme analysis, we have an army, a navy and an air force. No one will stop us if it is our firm decision to reassert our authority on our own borders and over our own laws; that is why we have a military. As always, the peaceful and diplomatic route is to be preferred. The border settlement is going to be central to our phase two negotiations, which cannot succeed unless agreement is reached. But as you rightly say it is the free movement of people which is the bone of contention and unless the EU thinks this freedom is so important that it merits the failure of the Good Friday agreement and the likely resumption of hostilities, the EU will need to give some ground on that freedom to make the deal achievable. The answer to that one may well rest on passport checks internally in Northern Ireland and a requirement for EU citizens to submit to checks at Belfast's airport and ferry terminals should they travel onwards to the UK. Irish citizens have been exempt from such requirements for decades and there a Common Travel Area agreement between Britain and Ireland which covers that point. There is also a common visa system whereby you can a single visa which allows rights to visit both Britain and Ireland. This agreement could be utilised as the mechanism for controlling the movements of EU nationals in and out of Ireland's land border with the UK with very little fuss. Always provided the free movement of labour is not important enough to be worth sacrificing the Good Friday agreement, naturally.
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February 12th, 2018, 05:12 PM | #3276 | |
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Agreements can be renegotiated, both sides have benefited from the peace dividend over the last almost 20 years so there may be less of a problem as they know how much of a bonus peace has been, they may still not be on each other's Christmas card lists but they are now talking (most of the time anyway). Nothing has been decided yet and I still think with good will and less intransigent political dogma that a positive solution can be found. With each post you're putting medieval flagellants to shame. You really are the most pessimistic person I know
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February 13th, 2018, 05:38 AM | #3277 | |
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By your twisted logic there would be no change allowed in the world in case it caused problems to some existing treaty. The British people voted for a change, it's up to our politicians to deliver that, what you or I may think is irrelevant as they have access to ALL the information, we are just conjecturing at best, hapless wishful thinking at worst.
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February 13th, 2018, 05:53 PM | #3278 | |
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If a bomb goes off anywhere the knob who plants it is solely responsible, your whining "you will blame the EU somehow" comment is typical of the soft underbelly of the Remain camp. I haven't anywhere demanded the Good Friday treaty be torn up, all I have said is that treaties can be amended as circumstances change over time. You find anywhere where I said what you are prattling on about. Yes, I DO expect politicians to sort it out as it was that diehard remain tosspot Cameron who promised and delivered the referendum (a rare occasion where a politician actually kept their word), at that time HMG should have looked into the blatantly obvious to anyone with a working brain "what if" scenario. How Brexit is actually achieved is up to HMG, simples. Even Cameron has changed his tune recently David Cameron: Brexit's turned out 'less badly than first thought' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42806207 If you have any beef about the current situation then I kindly suggest you write a very stern letter to your MP and demand your voice is heard above the 17.4 million Leave voters
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February 13th, 2018, 08:31 PM | #3279 | |
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Why thanks for noticing that, it was merely an appropriate reply to you as you cannot seem to accept the simple concept that political decisions are for politicians to make. Only time will tell if those decisions were correct, I trust their reading of the situation more than I would yours. Swapping posts with you is just like platting fog
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Henry Bolton loses Ukip leadership after vote of no confidence
Henry Bolton was today ousted as UKIP leader after controversy over racist messages about Meghan Markle sent by his partner Jo Marney
. Details: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43098646
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