[solved TNC] Kristina Price (aka: Richell, Kristi Turner, etc) - Blonde Beauty Name.

[effCup]

Originally Posted by Rubinski

After a quick glance, I think those in the discussion thread are Nicola D from Mayfair.
But don't hold me to that yet.
Are there three girls mixed up here?
Aye yi yi

I think t-boner confused Kristina Price with ND. Instead of posting that in mir he did so in ND's thread. One of the (then) models mods. then moved some ND content out of her thread to models discussion, where it has since remained unaddressed. I suggested at the time it would be more useful to move t-boner's post (only) to mir where it would get looked at. Obviously not the right suggestion. Or else another example of the limits of vef's "territorial" inflexibility?

I think there are 3 models: ND, KP, and Richell.

[Rubinski]

I looked this over more, and see some things of interest.
ND and Richell wore the same necklace and earrings in separate photo sessions.
Same hairdo?
But they do not look like the same girl to me.
Different eye makeup tells me they were different photos sessions at the very least.

Other differences between ND and Richell detailed by Effie above.
Different spots on their chests and shoulders.
Different noses.

I also think Richell may have enhanced breasts, which is why the underside of her areolas are oddly shaped.
They look retouched in some pix, and pretty sure I see a scar in some pix.

Richell's breasts are barely one size larger than what looks like natural breasts on ND.
Seems like an unlikely enhancement for a girl to do.

In Nicola's thread I see it like this.

ND
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...13&postcount=1
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...39&postcount=4
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...75&postcount=5
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...58&postcount=6
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...3&postcount=10 (spots on right upper arm)

Richell
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...62&postcount=2
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...16&postcount=3
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...27&postcount=7
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...57&postcount=8
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...86&postcount=9
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...6&postcount=11

As for the ND discussion thread, the first 3 posts look like Nicola to me.
Matched the spots on her left breast and shoulder in that AUPH/DD session.
I can't see the Hot Shots pix well enough to be sure on them.

Post 4, Kristina Price does not have those spots.
KP has smaller breasts than ND or Richell, and they look natural.
KP has different nipples and areolas too.
I suppose KP might have had her breasts done and became Richell, but I don't think so.
KP and Richell's noses don't look like a match to me.

If anyone sees any mistakes in my conclusions here, please let me know.

Thanks

I am not sure if we are ready to call Richell solved by that name, but she may have enough content for a thread.
Richell is somewhat searchable, so may be suitable.

I think that KP could be called solved as KP, or left.
Not sure if there is enough content of KP for a PMT.

[effCup]

To me there's no Richell content in ND's thread.

I also think the first 3 posts in the ND discussion thread are all ND. The fourth is KP.

I agree the hot shots pics. are too small to judge, but they're clearly part of the same set of Casey @DD, which is in larger size, so if Casey @DD is ND (which I think she is) then the hot shots pics. are also her.

Richell's nose is rather different from ND's. Compare Richell @Suze with Casey @DD, i.e. clarity & resolution of those pics. helps.

The original release date for Richell is not clear but I think it's from the first half of the 1980s?

ND, in contrast, debuts c.1988--Mayfair, Pink, Sexy (De), & other appearances in 1989, or later.

[Rubinski]

Thanks Effie

I checked posts 2,3,7, 8, and 11 in ND's thread and they all look like the same photo session.
All of the girl with the oddly shaped lower areolas.
She is also the one that has the different nose and the wrong spots.
I think that girl is Richell, not the same girl that is in post 1 on ND's thread.
The girl in post one is who I believe to be Nicola.
The girl in post one has smoothly round areolas with a distinct lower edge.
Something odd would have to happen to the girl in post 1 to become the girl in post 2,3,7,8, & 11.
Ignore the jewelry match.

The blonde girl in post 9 also has the oddly shaped areolas.

If I am wrong, tell me what details I missed.

As for this thread, all look like Richell to me.

Thanks for reporting the connection on the hot shots pix

When you are sure of those dates, maybe they will mean something.

[effCup]

I'm sure Richell was at least a few years earlier than ND. The precise date I'm not sure of--see link I posted above to Suze's site, where they half-give but also don't give a recognisable date form--what year is -1? That doesn't mean there can't be any re-releases of Richell content in the late-1980s but it's less usual. /shrug/ If Richell did reappear in late-1980s sets it would raise the question of what happened in between. I realise chronology is a weak form of argument and I didn't mean to suggest I was relying on it, simply adding it to the earlier points about the physical differences I'd found.

I've previously discussed the noses & spots, etc. of Richell & ND. Those are features that distinguish the posts in ND's thread (& the ND discussion thread) from Richell, but many of which you now list as being Richell. I suppose I can try to re-type that post if you insist, but don't see the point--what would that add? We're seeing different things. Maybe red pen's required.

[Rubinski]

Why are you sure Richell was earlier?
If you have proof, let's see it.

In general, I think ND is prettier and probably a smaller girl, without scars below her areolas.
I see different faces

Post 1 is a different session from the post 2 session.
Same necklace and earrings, but some obvious differences, including the girl with the odd shaped areolas is in the post 2 session.

Here's the girl in post 1 session


Here's one of the girl from the session in post 2


Do you see the different areolas I've mentioned?
That seems very obvious to me.
Seeing that makes it easy to tell them apart.
Once I see that odd areola in one photo from a session, that makes the rest of that session the same girl.

Nicola had 2 spots above her left breast and one on the front of her left shoulder.
Also one on the front near her right shoulder. Among others.


Richell doesn't have any of those spots, but she seems to have different spots.


I used those spots to confirm what I saw with the different areolas.

ND and Richell both have 2 spots on their upper right arm, but in different positions.
Nicola


Richell's are similar, but lower and more towards the front of her arm.


I used those right arm spots in post 10 to confirm that being ND.

[t-boner]

Stopping by here after a long time again makes me feel a certain need to give some explaining backgrounds about what I wrote in post 4 of this thread. Maybe that can also help to add a bit of structure to the whole issue:

If anything, I am a fan and connoisseur of 'Richell'. (I know little about the other girl (or as some may suppose - girls) involved in the ND thread.)
I feel like having seen 'Richell' in quite a few magazine layouts during the 80s (I tend to say, after 1985 rather than before, but don't pin me down to that), but I also remember that even in the old times I never found her pictures associated with an at least somewhat reliable name, though I would have been very interested in knowing one already then. But her names in the layouts changed like the weather in Ireland, if they bothered to come up with one at all for the few pics of her they sometimes only printed. Over the years, she also seemed to feature more often "anonymously" in ads than in proper layouts.

So, this model was not at all new to me, when I first found her on VEF in the Nicola Daventry thread. And from the first moment I doubted that the pics in post 1 and 2 there represented the same girl. But since I didn't have any name at all so far and since several members had willingly posted content with "my candidate" to that thread, I gladly accepted 'Nicola Daventry' as her name and took post 1,4,5,6 and 10 as mistakes.
As I am learning now, it is just the other way round and 'Nicola Daventry' is indeed, if anything, just the name of that other girl in post 1,4,5,6 and - very likely, if you ask me - also 10 (it's just the hairdo that changes the look a bit, the face itself to me is the same). effcup in this thread, post 10 is therefore completely right when assuming that I - in fact, even in several posts on VEF - confused 'Kristina Price' with 'Nicola Daventry'. Sorry for that - to me, to begin with, one name was simply as good as another. I was only interested in finding a reliable and constant one for all of her content.

That does NOT mean, however, that I ever had only the least doubt or difficulty in matching any picture containing "my candidate" in that context to whom we call Suze's 'Richell' (or 'Kristina Price' or 'Kristi Turner'). - Which obliges me to disagree here:

Originally Posted by effCup

I agree the hot shots pics. are too small to judge, but they're clearly part of the same set of Casey @DD, which is in larger size, so if Casey @DD is ND (which I think she is) then the hot shots pics. are also her.

To me in this case the hotshot pics are indeed lamentably small for collecting purposes, but still not at all too small to judge, and I do not have the least doubt that 'Kristina Price' and 'Kristi Turner' are the same person. Not only because of completely matching body features, but also because the background settings of pic 2 and even pic 1 are insinuating that they were even shot at the same occasion as the PH layout.
What I can't see, however, is how the hotshot pics could be part of the set of Casey @DD. That would be very interesting, but I can't believe it just like that, I don't see the least similarity. Can anybody confirm this from his own membership at DD? Otherwise, this might be the main origin of confusion that could be cleared up a little by the following conclusion:

1 - I agree with effcup that Casey @DD (post 10 in the ND thread) very likely is ND. This would reveal her also as the same model as in post 1,4,5,6 of the ND thread and hereby as the "true" 'Nicola Daventry'.

2 - However, 'Kristina Price' (PH), 'Kristi Turner' (hotshots) and our thread starter's 'Richell' (Suze) are three names for only one different person - different only from 'Nicola Daventry', whereas among themselves they all three represent the same model, who also needs to be associated with post 2,3,7,8, also 9 (no doubt!) and of course 11 of the ND thread.

3 - There is no third model in the ND thread according to this scenario!

[Rubinski]

Originally Posted by t-boner

2 - However, 'Kristina Price' (PH), 'Kristi Turner' (hotshots) and our thread starter's 'Richell' (Suze) are three names for only one different person - different only from 'Nicola Daventry', whereas among themselves they all three represent the same model, who also needs to be associated with post 2,3,7,8, also 9 (no doubt!) and of course 11 of the ND thread.

3 - There is no third model in the ND thread according to this scenario!

Thanks t-boner

Sounds like you agree that Nicola is post 1,4,5,6, & 10 in the ND model thread.
And Richell is post 2,3,7,8,9, & 11.

Also sounds like you are saying Kristina Price in the discussion thread is the same girl as Richell.
Did I read that wrong?

[t-boner]

Originally Posted by Rubinski

Thanks t-boner

Sounds like you agree that Nicola is post 1,4,5,6, & 10 in the ND model thread.
And Richell is post 2,3,7,8,9, & 11.

Also sounds like you are saying Kristina Price in the discussion thread is the same girl as Richell.
Did I read that wrong?

You read everything absolutely correct, Rubinski. To me: Kristina Price / Kristi Turner / Richell is post 2,3,7,8,9 & 11 in the ND model thread, Nicola is post 1,4,5,6, & 10. I saw, you more or less did this analysis yourself already in post 13 and I totally agree with you. I could just have referred to your post. Sorry for having expressed myself more long-windedly, but since I in the past several times erroneously used the name Nicola Daventry for the model I mean, I needed to explain how this happened in order to maintain som credibility, when I now seem to say something different. In reality it is not the name I feel (felt) competent about in this case, but the looks.

[Rubinski]

Thanks t-boner.
I was working from the other direction.
I knew Nicola and instantly knew Richell was not her.
Since that was the main problem here, I looked closely at those two to make sure.

As for Kristina being Richell, I did not check closely, but I will now.

Comparing Kristina and Richell closer, I see some differences.
Kristina has smaller breasts, and I thought the nipples did not match.
But the eyes and noses seemed like a possible match.
Spot on Kristina's lower left neck, left cheek, and left breast (at about 10:00)
I could not find a good look at Richell's neck, but think I see it in the last pix with Keisha.
I definitely see a spot on Richell's left cheek, and left breast in other pix.
Seems to match.
Kristina must be a pre op Richell.

Thanks again t-boner.