Windows 7?

[9876543210]

burpman,

Originally Posted by burpman

I used the release candidate for several weeks and loved it and it ran like a champ but they had absolutely no support for the older sound card in my laptop. I tried all the compatible Vista drivers with no joy. I had to give up on it ultimately because of the lack of driver support for slightly older hardware.

I had a similar experience, but my problem was with the video card (a compatible sound card driver was found during install). It took a while, and I had to try lots of different drivers, but I finally found a Vista compatible driver that kind of worked, but not all that well. It really started slowing things down to the point where I had to get rid of some of the nice video stuff that Win 7 allowed. I kept checking for an updated driver but I finally figured out that they weren't going to make a good video driver for this laptop (it only has 64 MB shared video RAM).

So I have to say that I really liked Win 7 but it won't run well on my current machine. But I'll definitely put it on my next computer.

One last thing that I haven't found a fix for. I've put the RC on several friends machines and its been working real well for them except for one problem on one machine. One friend is a web designer and uses Flash 8 for a good portion of what she does (she does have CS2 or CS3 but hasn't used its version of Flash much yet). There is some incompatibility with Win 7 and Flash 8 (which is noted during install) so it disables some part of Flash. This incompatibility has pretty much forced my friend to go back to XP to use Flash 8. So now she's back in XP about 50% of the time (Flash is one of her main apps).

So I was just wondering if anyone else had run into this problem and found a fix.

[buttsie]

A couple of comaprisons...all the hype that said windows 7 could be run on as litle as 256ram was just that...hype...its certainly more backwards looking compatible than vista

Windows 7 Review: XP vs Vista vs 7 in 80+ Benchmarks 19/10/09
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/rev...ndows_7_review


March 10th, 2009
Windows 7 build 7048 vs. Windows 7 beta 1 vs. Vista vs. XP performance shootout - which is best?


The test systems

I’ve used two desktop systems as the test machines:

* An AMD Phenom 9700 2.4GHz system fitted with an ATI Radeon 3850 and 4GB of RAM
* An Intel Pentium Dual Core E2200 2.2GHz fitted with an NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS and 1GB of RAM

The tests

There are 31 tests in all, most of which are self explanatory:

1. Install OS - Time it takes to install the OS
2. Boot up - Average boot time to usable desktop
3. Shut down - Average shut down time
4. Move 100MB files - Move 100MB of JPEG files from one hard drive to another
5. Move 2.5GB files - Move 2.5GB of mixed size files (ranging from 1MB to 100MB) from one hard drive to another
6. Network transfer 100MB files - Move 100MB of JPEG files from test machine to NAS device
7. Network transfer 2.5GB files - Move 2.5GB of mixed size files (ranging from 1MB to 100MB) from test machine to NAS device
8. Move 100MB files under load - Move 100MB of JPEG files from one hard drive to another while ripping DVD to .ISO file
9. Move 2.5GB files under load - Move 2.5GB of mixed size files (ranging from 1MB to 100MB) from one hard drive to another while ripping DVD to .ISO file
10. Network transfer 100MB files under load - Move 100MB of JPEG files from test machine to NAS device while ripping DVD to .ISO file
11. Network transfer 2.5GB files under load - Move 2.5GB of mixed size files (ranging from 1MB to 100MB) from test machine to NAS device while ripping DVD to .ISO file
12. Compress 100MB files - Using built-in ZIP compression
13. Compress 1GB files - Using built-in ZIP compression
14. Extract 100MB files - Using built-in ZIP compression
15. Extract 1GB files - Using built-in ZIP compression
16. Compress 100MB files under load - Using built-in ZIP compression while ripping DVD to .ISO file
17. Compress 1GB files under load - Using built-in ZIP compression while ripping DVD to .ISO file
18. Extract 100MB files under load - Using built-in ZIP compression while ripping DVD to .ISO file
19. Extract 1GB files under load - Using built-in ZIP compression while ripping DVD to .ISO file
20. Install Office 2007 - Ultimate version, from DVD
21. Open 10 page Word doc - Text only
22. Open 100 page Word doc - Text and images only
23. Open simple Excel doc - Basic formatting
24. Open complex Excel doc - Including formula and charts
25. Burn DVD - Win 7 beta 1 .ISO to disc using CDBurnerXP
26. Open 10 page PDF - Text only, using latest Adobe Reader 8
27. Open 100 page PDF - Text and images, using latest Adobe Reader 8
28. Far Cry 2 benchmark
29. Call of Duty 5 benchmark
30. Left 4 Dead benchmark
31. Crysis Warhead benchmark

The results...smaller number is best

[buttsie]

Originally Posted by 9876543210

burpman,



I had a similar experience, but my problem was with the video card (a compatible sound card driver was found during install). It took a while, and I had to try lots of different drivers, but I finally found a Vista compatible driver that kind of worked, but not all that well. It really started slowing things down to the point where I had to get rid of some of the nice video stuff that Win 7 allowed. I kept checking for an updated driver but I finally figured out that they weren't going to make a good video driver for this laptop (it only has 64 MB shared video RAM).

So I have to say that I really liked Win 7 but it won't run well on my current machine. But I'll definitely put it on my next computer.

One last thing that I haven't found a fix for. I've put the RC on several friends machines and its been working real well for them except for one problem on one machine. One friend is a web designer and uses Flash 8 for a good portion of what she does (she does have CS2 or CS3 but hasn't used its version of Flash much yet). There is some incompatibility with Win 7 and Flash 8 (which is noted during install) so it disables some part of Flash. This incompatibility has pretty much forced my friend to go back to XP to use Flash 8. So now she's back in XP about 50% of the time (Flash is one of her main apps).

So I was just wondering if anyone else had run into this problem and found a fix.

I dont know about a solution but its certainly a known issue

http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-...sh-player.html

[anal61]

No one has touched on the simple fact - why upgrade to windows 7.
There is only one benefit - touch screen and lets not forget the price of one of those and would you really want your littlke darlings touching it.

Business will certainly not upgrade as it is a rescource hog,requires a minimum spec which is far skyward of XP so this keeps microsoft from stopping the upgrades as business demands XP be supported and will not be buying new equiptment or shelling out on the training for any new operating system.

You say it is small being 27GB - XP has a footprint of around 600MB so Win 7 needs and extra 26.4GB for what exactly - it is an operating system - a window to other things.

After a few weeks all the bells and whistles will be turned off as you strive to get your PC to do more important things other than look pretty.

The only people who will buy this bloated piece of racoon poop will be the ones who shop in pc "not broken but we'll charge them the earth to fix it" world.

If you shop around it is still easily possible to get a full system with XP and if not you can easily build your own for aropund a fifth the price.

Ask yourself 1 question - Why are they still doing all their work using XP at Redmond - Microsoft HQ.

Rant over.Thank you and good day.

[9876543210]

buttsie,

Originally Posted by buttsie

I dont know about a solution but its certainly a known issue

http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-...sh-player.html

Thanks for the reply but that link is for the Adobe Flash Player. Flash 8 (also made by Adobe) is a professional app that actually creates the animations. Flash Player is for end users and is free while the Adobe Suite (of which Flash is a part) is quite costly.

I've done a few google searches for her on this problem and haven't come up with anything yet. I was just wondering if any other developers around here might have had the same problem.

[spitalhouse]

My Desktop - just the way I like it. I tested Windows 7 and after a week decided that XP Pro SP3 with a Tango theme suited me just fine.

Regards.

[DrFishnets]

I have Windows 7 64bit partitioned alongside Mac OSX 10.6.1 Snow Leopard on my Macbook Pro through Bootcamp.

So far It is miles better than shitty Windows Vista as it is faster and more stable but I still get the annoying "Are you sure" message appear when I open programs and applications which you can switch off I believe.

IMHO even though Windows 7 is an approvement it isn't near as good as Snow Leopard even though I have had crashes on that too.

Doc

[MrKinkade]

Dudes I wouldn't touch vista SE= windows 7 with a barge pole ! Iam on Linux and wont go back to micro$hite ever again if you must stick with windows use XP a well matured platform now.

[buttsie]

Originally Posted by 9876543210

buttsie,



Thanks for the reply but that link is for the Adobe Flash Player. Flash 8 (also made by Adobe) is a professional app that actually creates the animations. Flash Player is for end users and is free while the Adobe Suite (of which Flash is a part) is quite costly.

I've done a few google searches for her on this problem and haven't come up with anything yet. I was just wondering if any other developers around here might have had the same problem.

I think this probably says it all...from www.annoyances.org

Called Adobe Technical support, waited about 30 mins, and then was told "Adobe
>does not support Windows 7, so the install may or maynot work." (They could help
>if they wanted to).

I guess this is something diferent again

re: Windows 7 wont install Adobe cs3
Thursday, September 17, 2009 at 11:07 am
Windows 7 Annoyances Discussion Forum
Posted by kevin wakefield (1 messages posted)

I have gotten Photoshop CS3 to install just fine, I had it installed until recently when I upgraded to CS4. There was an issue with Windows installer a while back.. they released a fix. I can't remember what it was but you might try that. EDIT: I found that fix and here it is. 1. Open a Command Prompt Window as Administrator 2. Type reg delete HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SQMClient\Windows\Disabled Sessions /va /f and press enter.

[pengomix]

I have WIn7 installed, working fine in my lap HP, I have 1Gb in Memory, Pentium 4, Radeon mobill 600.

I don't like windows vista.