Classic Pornstars who belong in the Softcore Section and vice versa - Page 6

**palo5** · December 17th, 2018, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybin9

New thread for a new-to-site vintage model currently does not qualify for CP status. Thoughts?

Alice Denham.

Completely agree with you. She was an actress, writer and also a PB centerfold. More of a celebrity, actually, but since she did modeling we have no problem accepting her in SM

Thread moved to Softcore Models. Thanks!

**vo1v0d** · December 18th, 2018, 11:30 PM

Michelle Collins is still in SC despite her appearance in the Hard Cuts series

**Rubinski** · December 18th, 2018, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vo1v0d

Michelle Collins is still in SC despite her appearance in the Hard Cuts series

Michelle's thread
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showthread.php?t=6320

The short clip I remember seeing did not really convince me it was her.

IAFD has her listed in Hard Cuts 1 & 2
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfi...le-collins.htm
No notes about them being non sex roles, so maybe it's time for a closer to look.

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...d.php?t=351358
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...d.php?t=351392

If anyone has info or links to them, please share.

**Rubinski** · December 20th, 2018, 09:23 PM

palo5 downloaded the Hard Cut 1 & 2 videos and gave us new fast links to look at.
Thanks!

https://1fichier.com/?wvlb2xmmkcm1banxfga0
https://1fichier.com/?hbe1gd15vok75i3t47eu

From what I saw in Hard Cut 1 I think it's her starting at 20:00.
Blue plastic Jacket, red plastic boots, doing herself with a dildo outdoors on a bench.
If that is not her, then she isn't in it.

In Hard Cut 2, there were a few seconds of footage with what looked like her to me.
This time, actually sucking and fucking a guy.
A few seconds here and there a few times.
Pretty sure it is her in that.

Disappointing work from her in both videos, but the Hard Cut 2 part seems to makes it official.

Moved her to Classic Porn stars.
Thanks to vo1v0d for the report.

**vo1v0d** · December 23rd, 2018, 12:47 AM

The Michelle Collins segments I saw years ago, definitely her, but the versions I saw were longer and before they were annexed by Hard Cuts. Same dopey outfit but better definition able to destroy all doubt.

**vo1v0d** · December 28th, 2018, 10:00 PM

Nothing HC in the Vicky Scott thread and I remeber going through it before the crash and there was zero then.

**Rubinski** · December 28th, 2018, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vo1v0d

Nothing HC in the Vicky Scott thread and I remeber going through it before the crash and there was zero then.

Vicky's thread
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/showthread.php?t=7383

I didn't see any hardcore there

Certainly not the Vicky Scott in IAFD that started in 2003.
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfi...icky-scott.htm

**sandhunter** · December 29th, 2018, 12:27 AM

I did not see any H/C in Vicky Scott's thread, so she can be moved

It's done

The_Archivist · December 30th, 2018, 05:54 PM

Isn't Brandy Ledford in CP because of the pictorial in Lesbian Love 34?

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...0&postcount=58

Getting fingered and dildoed surely must count as hard core.

**palo5** · December 30th, 2018, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Archivist

Isn't Brandy Ledford in CP because of the pictorial in Lesbian Love 34?

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...0&postcount=58

Getting fingered and dildoed surely must count as hard core.

She was moved from s/c to h/c in October 2011. There is no reason given for this in the thread log, but I assume it's because of her sex tape, mentioned in her first post and posted here

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...&postcount=144

Definitions of h/c can seem a little confused sometimes. Many of us think (without thinking too deeply) that it means "penetration" (vaginal/oral/anal), always involves a man, and doesn't seem to count lesbian sex. It also ignores male ejaculation which can be achieved without penetration

In Classic Pornstars, we do count male ejaculation as h/c, which is why Donna Ambrose is here, but have never counted lesbian dildo sex, so far as I'm aware

If anyone wants to debate it, this is the right place to do it. This wiki page is useful, imho:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_pornography

December 29th, 2018, 12:27 AM	#58
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December 18th, 2018, 11:30 PM	#52
vo1v0d Hideous By Nature Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: sarf eeeest lunden Posts: 8,225 Thanks: 42,174 Thanked 60,496 Times in 7,438 Posts	Michelle Collins is still in SC despite her appearance in the Hard Cuts series

December 20th, 2018, 09:23 PM	#54
Rubinski Classic Models Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Avatar is NGC1097 Posts: 4,075 Thanks: 58,418 Thanked 133,785 Times in 3,984 Posts	palo5 downloaded the Hard Cut 1 & 2 videos and gave us new fast links to look at. Thanks! https://1fichier.com/?wvlb2xmmkcm1banxfga0 https://1fichier.com/?hbe1gd15vok75i3t47eu From what I saw in Hard Cut 1 I think it's her starting at 20:00. Blue plastic Jacket, red plastic boots, doing herself with a dildo outdoors on a bench. If that is not her, then she isn't in it. In Hard Cut 2, there were a few seconds of footage with what looked like her to me. This time, actually sucking and fucking a guy. A few seconds here and there a few times. Pretty sure it is her in that. Disappointing work from her in both videos, but the Hard Cut 2 part seems to makes it official. Moved her to Classic Porn stars. Thanks to vo1v0d for the report.

December 23rd, 2018, 12:47 AM	#55
vo1v0d Hideous By Nature Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: sarf eeeest lunden Posts: 8,225 Thanks: 42,174 Thanked 60,496 Times in 7,438 Posts	The Michelle Collins segments I saw years ago, definitely her, but the versions I saw were longer and before they were annexed by Hard Cuts. Same dopey outfit but better definition able to destroy all doubt.

December 28th, 2018, 10:00 PM	#56
vo1v0d Hideous By Nature Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: sarf eeeest lunden Posts: 8,225 Thanks: 42,174 Thanked 60,496 Times in 7,438 Posts	Nothing HC in the Vicky Scott thread and I remeber going through it before the crash and there was zero then.