Things Noticeable this week

[Greenman]

Originally Posted by Wendigo

Here you go then your ladyship, here's some good news

Chinese tourists flock to North Yorkshire chippy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-45273575

Thank you Parker you may go now.
Well we love our flish and chips, flying tonight?

[Greenman]

Originally Posted by haroldeye

Re my post 35918. C4News actually censored the clip of Frei and Dershowitz. I should have checked before posting it but I assumed that as C4 News tries to be honest and be a beacon of integrity they wouldn't stoop to such low behaviour.

The actual interview started with Frei introducing the Prof as an advisor to Trump. Dershowitz opened up by putting Frei right. "I am not an advisor to Trump, I am a Democrat and I voted for Hilary Clinton. I am not here to talk about my politics but about Constitutional Law as regards Trump." Frei, used to bullying third rate British politicians did not take the hint and carried on as ever.

The interview ended with Frei making some fatuous remarks about how poor American law is because the POTUS cannot be prosecuted whilst in Office. Dershowitz then gave Frei both barrels about how it was impolite and just not on to critize the American legal and political system when the British allow an out and out hater of Jews, a prejudiced and confirmed anti semite, to be leader of the opposition.

So C4 censors the bits that show it for what it is.

Matt Frei used to be a BBC reporter in the Far East I don't ever remember his stuff being censored.

[DTravel]

Originally Posted by Wendigo

Here you go then your ladyship, here's some good news

Chinese tourists flock to North Yorkshire chippy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-45273575

Isn't "chippy" a slang term for a 'loose woman'?

[Wendigo]

Originally Posted by DTravel

Isn't "chippy" a slang term for a 'loose woman'?

And a carpenter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chippy


We Brits like to get our money's worth out of our words

[Greenman]

I don't know about slang for women but there was a children's programme in the 1970's Camberwick Green, puppets-style(no strings, stop-motion sort) and there was a character called Chippy Minton and his son Nibs who were both carpenters and they even had a song, but I'm not going to bore you with that.

[palo5]

Originally Posted by haroldeye

Dershowitz then gave Frei both barrels about how it was impolite and just not on to critize the American legal and political system when the British allow an out and out hater of Jews, a prejudiced and confirmed anti semite, to be leader of the opposition

They edited the Dershowitz interview so that he didn't look a complete imbecile

Firstly, there's a gazillion things wrong with the US legal & political system, such as a bought Congress, corruption in high office, gerrymandering and political appointment of USSC justices for a lifetime. It's as corrupt as it can possibly be

Secondly, he's wrong about Corbyn, as are many British people. Being against UN-condemned illegal Israeli settlements in occupied territories, and equally condemned killing of Palestinians does not mean he's an anti-semite. It means he doesn't approve of Israeli actions

So as you can see, they were protecting Dershowitz by not giving air to his imbecile rant

[haroldeye]

Dershowitz had two rants. The first when he was called an advisor to Trump and the second when his countries constitution was insulted by a smug Brit. Really Palo the easiest way to get you going is to insult your countries constitution/political settlement.

Corbyn is very simple. He comes from a well off background where he has had little knowledge of the real world. He is against UN-condemned illegal Israeli settlements in occupied territories, and equally against the killing of Palestinians, good so am I. Equally I am against the actions of Hamas and the killing of Israelis. Sadly Corbyn is not so even handed. He talks of wanting peace but only gives support to one side.

Dershowitz did not have an imbecilic rant he merely put a smug twat in his place.

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by palo5

Secondly, he's wrong about Corbyn, as are many British people. Being against UN-condemned illegal Israeli settlements in occupied territories, and equally condemned killing of Palestinians does not mean he's an anti-semite. It means he doesn't approve of Israeli actions

Mr Corbyn is a mealy mouthed snivelling little bastard, and I am certainly not wrong about that. His evasions when called upon to condemn terrorism and anti-semitic conduct by his political allies are embarrassing. Always he will be on the side of criminals and scum and against genuine working people - he at least has this much in common with New Labour. It is infuriating that we are offered a choice between him and Theresa May - the terrorist sympathiser or the champion of fox hunting; unworthy, the pair of them.

The captain of this lugger
He was a dirty bugger
He wasn't fit to shovel shit
From one place to another.
~ The Sex Pistols.

[DTravel]

Sorry to drag politics back into the thread but the Trumpet just can't keep his mouth shut. So this week I've noticed that Trumpet has basically said he's against the rule of law and would like to make it illegal for someone accused of a crime to testify against someone they did the crime with.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/23/polit...wed/index.html

And he sharply decried those who testify against former confidants to ease legal troubles, bemoaning the longstanding practice.

"It's called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal," Trump said in the interview, adding he's witnessed similar scenarios over his decades in public life. "I know all about flipping, 30, 40 years I have been watching flippers. Everything is wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go."
Suspects cooperating with prosecutors in exchange for a reduced sentence is a central feature of the criminal justice system, but Trump has long valued loyalty over legal precedent or practice.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...interview.html

“[Cohen] makes a better deal when he uses me, like everybody else,” Trump said. “And one of the reasons I respect Paul Manafort so much is he went through that trial—you know they make up stories. People make up stories. This whole thing about flipping, they call it, I know all about flipping.”

He continued: “For 30, 40 years I’ve been watching flippers. Everything’s wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they—they flip on whoever the next highest one is, or as high as you can go.”

“It almost ought to be outlawed. It’s not fair. Because if somebody’s going to give—spend five years like Michael Cohen, or 10 years, or 15 years in jail because of a taxi cab industry, because he defrauded some bank—the last two were tiny ones,” Trump explained. “You know, campaign violations are considered not a big deal, frankly. But if somebody defrauded a bank and he’s going to get 10 years in jail or 20 years in jail, but if you can say something bad about Donald Trump and you’ll go down to two or three years, which is the deal he made.”

Trump said that “in all fairness” to Cohen, “most people are going to do that.”

“I’ve seen it many times,” Trump said. “I’ve had many friends involved in this stuff. It’s called flipping and it almost ought to be illegal.”

He laid out a scenario in which “you get 10 years in jail, but if you say bad things about somebody in other words, make up stories if you don’t know. Make up. They just make up lies. I’ve seen it many times.”

“They make up things and now they go from 10 years to they’re a national hero. They have a statue erected in their honor. It’s not a fair thing, but that’s why [Cohen] did it,” Trump said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...?noredirect=on

In an interview with Fox News, President Trump shared the highly unusual opinion that it “almost ought to be outlawed” for federal criminal defendants to cooperate with the government in exchange for more-lenient sentencing.

“If somebody defrauded a bank and he’s going to get 10 years in jail or 20 years in jail, but if you can say something bad about Donald Trump and you’ll go down to two years or three years, which is the deal [Michael Cohen] made,” he told Fox’s Ainsley Earhardt.

“I’ve had many friends involved in this stuff,” the president added. “It’s called ‘flipping,’ and it almost ought to be illegal.”

The types of arrangements Trump was referring to typically happen as part of plea bargains, which are extremely common in federal criminal cases. “Plea bargaining is a defining, if not the defining, feature of the federal criminal justice system,” as a 2011 Justice Department report characterized it, quoting earlier research.

It tends to be difficult to carry out an oath to "Defend and protect the Constitution against all enemies" when you ARE one of its enemies.

[Reclaimedwg]

Interesting read about the new HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales aircraft carriers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources...craft_carriers

(I was looking for an existing thread about the Royal Navy or the British armed forces.
I am surprised there isn't one.)