[solved PMT] Cheryl Martins - Karen Livingstone...or?

**Spruce** · August 11th, 2017, 10:56 AM

I've been a huge fan of the 90's UK ebony glamour model Karen Livingstone
http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/t36...vingstone.html

Came across this picture the other day, and to me its her, but from the hairstyle much later than I've ever seen material from...circa early 2000ish I would guess at?
Anyway, though I would ask for others opinions.

**effCup** · August 11th, 2017, 12:10 PM

Looks different to me. Compare Karen's nostrils. Mystery's are more widely spaced/have more "flesh" between them.

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Mystery looks younger than I would expect KL to seem by c.2000.
Mystery's lost considerable boobage from KL. Yes, the bra obscures somewhat, but. May sound unfair but I'd expect an older KL to have still-large but much saggier/droopier boobs.

Image search turns up a site that claims mystery pic. is from 2002, but uncertain... though it's also in the filename.

**teaktop** · August 11th, 2017, 01:57 PM

2001 Karupspc Model
Aaliyah is the name on some of the images

**Spruce** · August 14th, 2017, 07:54 AM

Thanks for the help guys...just shows how one picture can be so deceptive!! The one I found is the only one that bears any resemblance to KL based on all the others that Teaktop posted!

Whoever the mystery girl is...she's hot!!

**Spruce** · August 15th, 2017, 10:33 AM

If anyone is interested I've found most/the rest of the pics that Teaktop posted above!
I've put them in the stockings thread in General Modern Topics...

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...postcount=5126

Be nice to know who this model is, and if there is anymore material of her?

countwankula · April 12th, 2019, 08:33 PM

she also went under the name cheryl martins from the website joaniealum.com

**Weewinky** · August 19th, 2022, 03:31 PM

I've only just noticed this debate. From my titanic archives I've fished out this picture with the actual name on. Cheryl Martins was mostly in Knave and Fiesta Ebony & Ivory specials. Karen Livingstone was mainly in Electric Black & Blue, numerous times. They are entirely different models. The initial picture is not Karen Livingstone at a later date.

**Spruce** · August 19th, 2022, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Weewinky

I've only just noticed this debate. From my titanic archives I've fished out this picture with the actual name on. Cheryl Martins was mostly in Knave and Fiesta Ebony & Ivory specials. Karen Livingstone was mainly in Electric Black & Blue, numerous times. They are entirely different models. The initial picture is not Karen Livingstone at a later date.

What point are you attempting make here? It's already been proved that this is not KL above!!

Karen Livingstone was most certainly NOT mainly in Electric Black & Blue, I suggest you take a good look in her thread Here to see that!

I own the first 13 editions of Knave (not Fiesta!) Ebony & Ivory Specials, and Cheryl Martin only appears in No 11 as Tina...not exactly prolific as you state!

**misa1977** · December 31st, 2023, 08:11 AM

**Spruce** · December 31st, 2023, 10:42 AM

This is Cheryl Martins...she has a provisional thread Here.

August 11th, 2017, 10:56 AM	#1
Spruce Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,491 Thanks: 48,600 Thanked 646,940 Times in 13,003 Posts	[solved PMT] Cheryl Martins - Karen Livingstone...or? I've been a huge fan of the 90's UK ebony glamour model Karen Livingstone http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/t36...vingstone.html Came across this picture the other day, and to me its her, but from the hairstyle much later than I've ever seen material from...circa early 2000ish I would guess at? Anyway, though I would ask for others opinions.

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misa1977 Vintage Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,476 Thanks: 1,528 Thanked 21,537 Times in 2,419 Posts	[solved add to PMT] Cheryl Martins - black beauty

December 31st, 2023, 10:42 AM	#10
Spruce Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,491 Thanks: 48,600 Thanked 646,940 Times in 13,003 Posts	This is Cheryl Martins...she has a provisional thread Here. __________________ All my scans are my own, and scanned at 300dpi using an Epson Perfection V600 scanner. In my magazine posts, if you have any further IDs, please post them To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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August 14th, 2017, 07:54 AM	#4
Spruce Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,491 Thanks: 48,600 Thanked 646,940 Times in 13,003 Posts	Thanks for the help guys...just shows how one picture can be so deceptive!! The one I found is the only one that bears any resemblance to KL based on all the others that Teaktop posted! Whoever the mystery girl is...she's hot!!

August 15th, 2017, 10:33 AM	#5
Spruce Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,491 Thanks: 48,600 Thanked 646,940 Times in 13,003 Posts	If anyone is interested I've found most/the rest of the pics that Teaktop posted above! I've put them in the stockings thread in General Modern Topics... http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...postcount=5126 Be nice to know who this model is, and if there is anymore material of her?

April 12th, 2019, 08:33 PM	#6
countwankula Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 16 Thanks: 6,115 Thanked 53 Times in 8 Posts	she also went under the name cheryl martins from the website joaniealum.com

August 19th, 2022, 03:31 PM	#7
Weewinky Vintage Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 829 Thanks: 4,279 Thanked 7,529 Times in 821 Posts	I've only just noticed this debate. From my titanic archives I've fished out this picture with the actual name on. Cheryl Martins was mostly in Knave and Fiesta Ebony & Ivory specials. Karen Livingstone was mainly in Electric Black & Blue, numerous times. They are entirely different models. The initial picture is not Karen Livingstone at a later date.