Things Noticeable this week - Page 2970

**ruffroundedges** · May 29th, 2017, 12:20 AM

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As I said in the post the people of \Manchester showed respect to the Imams by allowing them to make their speeches.

My biggest fear is now a Right Wing backlash.

I second that on a global level.

**Rogerbh** · May 29th, 2017, 07:18 AM

If you allow in people whose young support terrorist attacks - even at 30% levels - you cannot be surprised when such attacks happen in your country. The comments from people who in the past said that England and France were in for a lot of trouble seem to have been prescient. Even the law abiding Muslims will not be able to know of every terrorist who has half a brain before they attack.

**Devius** · May 29th, 2017, 08:11 AM

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Another fatal knife attack in London over the weekend. The usual silence from the MSM. And what about the Met Police? Well, they are introducing a new tough law on - littering.

I share your anger - I had a pop at BLM(UK) last year about the same thing on the "What annoys you the most" thread:

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sho...ostcount=10204

Another month in London, and another murder in the city..

A woman shot dead by two cyclists near a playground in north London has been identified by police.

Mohanna Abdhou was shot in Malvern Road, Kilburn, on Friday night and died at the scene.

Post-mortem tests gave the cause of death as a single gunshot wound.

Police believe the 20-year-old, known as Montana, was standing with a group when they were approached by "two males" on bicycles who fired "a number of shots at the group".

Details:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40079394

FYI: England and Wales saw 'small but genuine' increases in murder and other violent crimes in 2016, including 13-14% increases in gun and knife crime, according to the latest police-recorded crime figures.

**Brecht** · May 29th, 2017, 01:18 PM

British Intelligence Warned Tony Blair of Manchester-Like Terrorism if the West Invaded Iraq

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has yet to say anything about Monday’s heinous, nihilistic suicide bombing at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England. According to current reporting, the attack has been claimed by ISIS and was carried out by a 22-year-old man born in Manchester to Libyan refugees.

But when Blair does speak, we can be certain he won’t mention one key fact: Before the 2003 invasion of Iraq led by the U.S. and U.K., he was forcefully and repeatedly warned by Britain’s intelligence services that it would lead to exactly this type of terrorist attack — and he concealed these warnings from the British people, instead claiming the war would reduce the risk of terrorism.

We know this because of the Chilcot Report, the seven-year-long British investigation of the Iraq War released in 2016. The report declassifies numerous internal government documents that illustrate the yawning chasm between what Blair was being told in private and his claims in public as he pushed for war.

The Intercept

**rupertramjet** · May 29th, 2017, 01:33 PM

Labour are making huge issues over their hardness on terrorism. Three of their front bench spokespersons, including the leader, were members of Troops Out, a pro IRA group in the 1970s and 80s which spoke against action against IRA Terrorists! Corbyn, made a huge issue about British Foreign Policy towards the Middle East being a cause of the current problems, would that not include Blair's two illegal crusades against Islamic nations then?

**bloke57** · May 29th, 2017, 01:38 PM

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Corbyn, made a huge issue about British Foreign Policy towards the Middle East being a cause of the current problems, would that not include Blair's two illegal crusades against Islamic nations then?

It would - but I'm pretty sure Corbyn himself voted against. I'm sure he spoke to us at the anti-Iraq rally a few years back but he wasn't so well known then.

**Brecht** · May 29th, 2017, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rupertramjet

Corbyn, made a huge issue about British Foreign Policy towards the Middle East being a cause of the current problems, would that not include Blair's two illegal crusades against Islamic nations then?

Of course. Corbyn's biggest enemies are the Blairites in his own party. They're basically a party within a party. He was definitely against those wars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs9NfhnfQLc

**rupertramjet** · May 29th, 2017, 01:48 PM

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It would - but I'm pretty sure Corbyn himself voted against. I'm sure he spoke to us at the anti-Iraq rally a few years back but he wasn't so well known then.

He might well have done, but the blood is on Labours hands and he represents the Party thats leaders lied to Parliament and led us into those wars.

A funny tale about the protests though! My sister took part, then afterwards went back to her overnight guest accommodation! At the Military Police station in Victoria, at which my nephew was serving as an RMP sergeant! Her brother btw, was en route to Iraq!

**SanteeFats** · May 29th, 2017, 01:49 PM

It is Memorial Day in the US This is the day we are suppose to honor our war dead. Unfortunately it seems to have turned more to bar-b-q's and picnics.

Estreeter · May 29th, 2017, 01:56 PM

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It is Memorial Day in the US This is the day we are suppose to honor our war dead. Unfortunately it seems to have turned more to bar-b-q's and picnics.

True

On our Anzac Day ( April 25th ) we have a now traditional football match between Collingwood and Essendon

A money grab to make the most of a public holiday for the AFL IMO

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May 29th, 2017, 07:18 AM	#29692
Rogerbh Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Land of the free within reasonable limitations Posts: 10,898 Thanks: 50,508 Thanked 91,147 Times in 10,744 Posts	If you allow in people whose young support terrorist attacks - even at 30% levels - you cannot be surprised when such attacks happen in your country. The comments from people who in the past said that England and France were in for a lot of trouble seem to have been prescient. Even the law abiding Muslims will not be able to know of every terrorist who has half a brain before they attack.

May 29th, 2017, 01:18 PM	#29694
Brecht Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 10,657 Thanks: 180,485 Thanked 188,138 Times in 10,453 Posts	British Intelligence Warned Tony Blair of Manchester-Like Terrorism if the West Invaded Iraq Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has yet to say anything about Monday’s heinous, nihilistic suicide bombing at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England. According to current reporting, the attack has been claimed by ISIS and was carried out by a 22-year-old man born in Manchester to Libyan refugees. But when Blair does speak, we can be certain he won’t mention one key fact: Before the 2003 invasion of Iraq led by the U.S. and U.K., he was forcefully and repeatedly warned by Britain’s intelligence services that it would lead to exactly this type of terrorist attack — and he concealed these warnings from the British people, instead claiming the war would reduce the risk of terrorism. We know this because of the Chilcot Report, the seven-year-long British investigation of the Iraq War released in 2016. The report declassifies numerous internal government documents that illustrate the yawning chasm between what Blair was being told in private and his claims in public as he pushed for war. The Intercept

May 29th, 2017, 01:33 PM	#29695
rupertramjet R.I.P. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cloud cuckoo land Posts: 4,300 Thanks: 26,852 Thanked 54,117 Times in 4,288 Posts	Labour are making huge issues over their hardness on terrorism. Three of their front bench spokespersons, including the leader, were members of Troops Out, a pro IRA group in the 1970s and 80s which spoke against action against IRA Terrorists! Corbyn, made a huge issue about British Foreign Policy towards the Middle East being a cause of the current problems, would that not include Blair's two illegal crusades against Islamic nations then?

May 29th, 2017, 01:49 PM	#29699
SanteeFats Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Santee, Ca Posts: 60,811 Thanks: 281,799 Thanked 813,696 Times in 60,855 Posts	It is Memorial Day in the US This is the day we are suppose to honor our war dead. Unfortunately it seems to have turned more to bar-b-q's and picnics.