zero hours contracts .....luddites unite !

**chris chunt** · May 6th, 2014, 09:30 AM

theyre in the news a lot the zero hours
labour like to blame the conservatives for them and visa versa .

the thing to blame is that oblong bit of plastic you carry round with you called a mobile phone .
employers can get hold of you whenever ,wherever ,and summons you into work .

i'm just on a temp contract myself and thats how things are .
15 or 20 years ago you were given a few weeks work in advance .

not anymore
technology has seen to that

**billybunter** · May 6th, 2014, 10:49 AM

Humans being treated as sheep.Time to protest!

**NIN** · May 6th, 2014, 11:26 AM

I've just had a home visit from DWP during which I told & showed them my mobile phone is ancient, won't hold a charge and even cuts-off while plugged into the charger.
That I can't afford a new one and that I'm not tech savvy enough or financially able to have internet

If any employer wants me on a rope , they can pay for the rope - I'm not supplying my own noose!

It's no permanant solution I guess but it keeps the Ba$t^rds at arms length

**billybunter** · May 6th, 2014, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIN

I've just had a home visit from DWP during which I told & showed them my mobile phone is ancient, won't hold a charge and even cuts-off while plugged into the charger.
That I can't afford a new one and that I'm not tech savvy enough or financially able to have internet

If any employer wants me on a rope , they can pay for the rope - I'm not supplying my own noose!

It's no permanant solution I guess but it keeps the Ba$t^rds at arms length

Yes, they try to trip you up with questions like how can you afford that TV I just said my dad bought it for me. For all you get they make a big deal out of it.

**NIN** · May 6th, 2014, 11:39 AM

She suggested I apply for PIP benefit, which is initially made over the phone

I used another phone, I told 'em I'd borrowed it just to make that call & made sure they took the original number I gave to the DWP,
...the guy knew I was on a different Number
- I've surrendered that Original mobile as a 'bollox line' , it gets plagued by PPI & Insurance cold calls & texts anyway

Still making me go to a 'crowbar you into work' interview tho

**billybunter** · May 6th, 2014, 12:01 PM

I'm on DLA which PIP replaces. N. Ireland won't sign up to the new regime and get fined millions every month. Sinn Fein won't sign, quite right too.

**Mal Hombre** · May 6th, 2014, 06:36 PM

I see that if You turn down a "Zero Hours" job,They'll stop Your benefits for three months.

**NIN** · May 6th, 2014, 07:15 PM

Isn't it wonderful that in a modern society, we can have the bias shifted towards an employer so drastically for the only possible reason of manipulating unemployment figures.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/06/labour-coalition-zero-hours-contracts

It is significantly more difficult for someone like myself with OCD, I find uncertainty and breaks in routine particularly hard to deal with, causing further angst and anxiety,
and that's before you even consider the financial complexities and pressures of not knowing what hours you may have to commit to, plus what effect that may have to a persons social life & family

Ester McVey, a third rate Ex-TV presenter is heading this flagship move , no doubt dreamt-up by Iain Duncan-Smith

never mind love there's a promise of a cabinet job for you if you avoid the Party Whip !

**otokonomidori** · May 7th, 2014, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mal Hombre

I see that if You turn down a "Zero Hours" job,They'll stop Your benefits for three months.

Seems fair enough to me - if you knock back paid work why should the rest of us keep you!

tittys n beer · May 7th, 2014, 12:32 AM

Labour - Blames the conservatives.

Conservatives - Blames Labour.

Lib Dem - Offers to take the blame. Calls a press conference to apologise for being rubbish.

UKIP - Marries a German. Gives her all the overtime she wants. Charges party funds every time she makes him a sandwich.

Monster Raving Looney Party - Buys a fez.

What nobody does - Anything about it.

The 0 hour contract is an evil little thing, and one that is destroying the job market.
It allows a company to take on more workers than they need and to divide too few hours among too many staff workers.
How are you supposed to pay your bills one week if your boss says that works a bit slack so you're only getting 15 hours that week?

Just as there is a minimum wage, there should also be a minimum amount of hours an employee has a right to work every week.

May 6th, 2014, 09:30 AM	#1
chris chunt Vintage Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,805 Thanks: 7,946 Thanked 36,411 Times in 2,765 Posts	zero hours contracts .....luddites unite ! theyre in the news a lot the zero hours labour like to blame the conservatives for them and visa versa . the thing to blame is that oblong bit of plastic you carry round with you called a mobile phone . employers can get hold of you whenever ,wherever ,and summons you into work . i'm just on a temp contract myself and thats how things are . 15 or 20 years ago you were given a few weeks work in advance . not anymore technology has seen to that

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billybunter R.I.P. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gone But Not Forgotten Posts: 14,404 Thanks: 51,687 Thanked 252,377 Times in 14,171 Posts	Humans being treated as sheep.Time to protest! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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NIN Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 8,823 Thanks: 200,569 Thanked 131,967 Times in 9,045 Posts	FCK'M I've just had a home visit from DWP during which I told & showed them my mobile phone is ancient, won't hold a charge and even cuts-off while plugged into the charger. That I can't afford a new one and that I'm not tech savvy enough or financially able to have internet If any employer wants me on a rope , they can pay for the rope - I'm not supplying my own noose! It's no permanant solution I guess but it keeps the Ba$t^rds at arms length

May 6th, 2014, 11:39 AM	#5
NIN Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 8,823 Thanks: 200,569 Thanked 131,967 Times in 9,045 Posts	She suggested I apply for PIP benefit, which is initially made over the phone I used another phone, I told 'em *I'd borrowed it* just to make that call & made sure they took the original number I gave to the DWP, ...the guy knew I was on a different Number - I've surrendered that Original mobile as a 'bollox line' , it gets plagued by PPI & Insurance cold calls & texts anyway Still making me go to a 'crowbar you into work' interview tho Last edited by NIN; May 6th, 2014 at 12:03 PM..

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billybunter R.I.P. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gone But Not Forgotten Posts: 14,404 Thanks: 51,687 Thanked 252,377 Times in 14,171 Posts	I'm on DLA which PIP replaces. N. Ireland won't sign up to the new regime and get fined millions every month. Sinn Fein won't sign, quite right too. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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NIN Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 8,823 Thanks: 200,569 Thanked 131,967 Times in 9,045 Posts	Isn't it wonderful that in a modern society, we can have the bias shifted towards an employer so drastically for the only possible reason of manipulating unemployment figures. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/06/labour-coalition-zero-hours-contracts It is significantly more difficult for someone like myself with OCD, I find uncertainty and breaks in routine particularly hard to deal with, causing further angst and anxiety, and that's before you even consider the financial complexities and pressures of not knowing what hours you may have to commit to, plus what effect that may have to a persons social life & family Ester McVey, a third rate Ex-TV presenter is heading this flagship move , no doubt dreamt-up by Iain Duncan-Smith never mind love there's a promise of a cabinet job for you if you avoid the Party Whip !

May 7th, 2014, 12:32 AM	#10
tittys n beer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 132 Thanks: 5,960 Thanked 1,880 Times in 124 Posts	Labour - Blames the conservatives. Conservatives - Blames Labour. Lib Dem - Offers to take the blame. Calls a press conference to apologise for being rubbish. UKIP - Marries a German. Gives her all the overtime she wants. Charges party funds every time she makes him a sandwich. Monster Raving Looney Party - Buys a fez. What nobody does - Anything about it. The 0 hour contract is an evil little thing, and one that is destroying the job market. It allows a company to take on more workers than they need and to divide too few hours among too many staff workers. How are you supposed to pay your bills one week if your boss says that works a bit slack so you're only getting 15 hours that week? Just as there is a minimum wage, there should also be a minimum amount of hours an employee has a right to work every week. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. There's no head like a redhead To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.