Horrors of late capitalism

[bowlinggreen]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

Nope. Chinese understood everything.
If since today you impose to get one child maximum to all the individuals that really want to reproduce themselves on this planet, in about 150 years, they only will remain maximum 500 million people on Earth.

No blood, no violence, no crimes, no wars...
Ok... our generation would have to accept to contribute a little bit longer to the society and to maybe take the lethal pill in case of Alzheimer.
That could be a debate of society.

I'm ready for that. I'll not have child.

So we're back to imposing tyrannical sanctions on who can mate and have how many children.

Maybe smart, nurturing parents should be encouraged to have more children than the abusive morons living in slums?

Or would that not be "equal"?

Originally Posted by SanteeFats

Thank you.

I'll second that.

[footstep]

Ok: suppose we have demands on pork food soon.
Don't you worry mate!
We have traders for that!
I love this world.

[Dr Pepper]

Originally Posted by bowlinggreen

So we're back to imposing tyrannical sanctions on who can mate and have how many children.

Maybe smart, nurturing parents should be encouraged to have more children than the abusive morons living in slums?

D

Frequent observation would indicate that it would be a bloody good idea....

[Enrico32]

Originally Posted by bowlinggreen

Yes it did. Moneylending at interest, i.e. usury has existed since ancient times. once you have that, the concept of real estate having a monetary value, having people work those estates for wages, and everything else capitalistic will follow.

But Capitalism is not about money! Money had always existed and moneylenders are good businessmen, after all.

The point of Capitalism, especially its recent form (after sudden disappearance of warlords), is Technocracy, a system when some law, maybe based on science and religion, directs everything, and even the richest, the greediest, the strongest bourgeois can do nothing but submit.

Modern people can even be more religious than medieval - medieval religion constantly rotated under pressure from warriors and hegemons while modern belief in the supremacy of law is omnipresent.

Or maybe this is not Capitalism but precisely the oft-predicted "next stage" of supreme central control?

[Enrico32]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

But if you don't want any system... you are an Anarchist.

Sadly Capitalism could collapse after having destroyed the environment that we today know, like a meteorite or a supervolcano.
The only difference, it will be by our own fault.

How would you call a system where power does not belong to any human (or group of humans) but to religious or scientific ideas (untraceable to any human source)?

[Enrico32]

Originally Posted by bowlinggreen

Well, capitalism certainly benefits from traditional man-woman relationships. Think of the $$$ men spend on little pieces of shiny carbon, i.e. diamonds, to get a woman to put on a white dress and then come live permanently in their houses. That's cynical materialism if ever it existed.

Society says "in order to have a mate, you must participate in capitalism and pay some jeweler an outrageous fee for a little rock."

Also, how are you going to be anti-capitalist and mate with materialistic women? What if materialistic women are all that's available? instead of giving them perfume and a diamond, are you going to use your "instincts' and rape them?

What you just described is, of course, normal. Animals share food/territory with their mates etc.

The problem with current society is that it somehow makes ALL people to fulfill the task. Or what? Or does it hide its un-marriageable paupers??

I read in animals (mammals), some 30% single creatures never mate for lack of strength and resources.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by otokonomidori

Through choice ? Or bollocks problems?

I'd wanted have more kids but these days there's a severe lack of anyone willing to be inseminated by me

That's not the thema of this topic. I already developped this thema over and over in the VEF philosophy club and in the what do you annoy you the most ones.

But I resume it quickly one more time here.

Twenty-five years ago I came by myself to the same conclusions as Schopenhauer, who you recently read his main opus.
Self-conscious caring intelligent creatures do not impose this stupid brutal life to their genes.
I've to say that even after undergoing a brainwashing attempt by the Catholic institution of my state, I do not believe in afterlife.

Do you believe in afterlife ?

Originally Posted by bowlinggreen

So we're back to imposing tyrannical sanctions on who can mate and have how many children.

I already observed that your own perceptions of tyranny is unilateral.
You hardly defend to exploit animals, to exploit workers, to potentially impose 80 to 90 more years of brutal life to several of your spermatozoïds for your own self-satisfaction.
I don't want to be rude, but that's the definition of ... a tyrannical parasite, not a good guy.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by xyzde69

I already observed that your own perceptions of tyranny is unilateral.
You hardly defend to exploit animals, to exploit workers, to potentially impose 80 to 90 more years of brutal life to several of your spermatozoïds for your own self-satisfaction.
I don't want to be rude, but that's the definition of ... a parasite, not a good guy.

I don't mean to be rude either
When exactly were you, the expert who hasn't had kids, given the expertise to advise on having them

I've never had my own kids, medically impossible, helped bring up my Mrs kids and half the time before they were grown up I had no idea what I was doing but can now look at them ... happy, working and making their own way in the world .... even if they do come here for a homemade meal now and then.

Seriously, you people on the left make me sick, all you all seem is negative about nearly everything ...... smile once on a while, works for me. The rich get richer ... so fucking what why can't people just be happy with just being an average nobody

[footstep]

Let's have a drink, a good food, a good woman, a good drop,
all is said.

[Hertz]

Originally Posted by footstep

Let's have a drink, a good food, a good woman, a good drop,
all is said.

Fair, but if you don't have the money, you will be thirsty, hungry & alone..