Politically Correct or Incorrect Bullshit Of The Day

[Decadence]

Originally Posted by diamelsx

IWho said anything about Cities? We were talking about religous institutions.

I did.. in the initial post:

Originally Posted by Decadence

Unless, of course, we're talking sanctuary cities/campuses/whatever.

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Originally Posted by lothian

This is why I now identify as Shootmenowogender .

https://youtu.be/yO5Hdidlh2g

There's no end.. When New York City's civil rights division identified 31 gender identities I thought that was extreme.. now this chap has found over 100.

It makes me think of all the applications/forms that we fill out that still have just male and female as a choice. Can you image what this is going to do to places like the license branch if this gets legitimate legal status?

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by Decadence

I did.. in the initial post.

My arguement was tailored to the private institutions right to abstain from a law that they feel violates theor religous convictions. To your point about sanctuary cities I pose 2 questions.

1. Do we uniformly enforce all the laws, all of the time or do situations factor into the decision? Think before you answer this one.

2. Do you know who you are actually fighting on this issue?

[Decadence]

Originally Posted by diamelsx

My arguement was tailored to the private institutions right to abstain from a law that they feel violates theor religous convictions.

Yes.. like the First Church of Cannabis, in Indianapolis. Applied for, and got, tax-exempt status, however chickened out when it came to actually using grass during a service due to threats from the city. I once knew the guy that started this.. years ago, he owned a head shop.

Originally Posted by diamelsx

1. Do we uniformly enforce all the laws, all of the time or do situations factor into the decision? Think before you answer this one.

Lest we veer off topic here, I'll try to be succinct.

If "all" is the operative word, then the answer is obviously 'no'. There is no point in enforcing (or even acknowledging) 150 year old laws that say you can't leave your ox cart on the street after sundown, or that your mule must have a manure basket if he's going to work in town.

Similarly, with limited state and local resources, is obvious that enforcement of laws regarding littering or vagrancy should take a back seat to those regarding armed robbery or child pornography.

As for immigration, we have a federal agency dedicated to nothing but enforcement of these laws. It used to work. It was so gutted and handcuffed by Obama that many people probably think it doesn't exist any more. Even during the Clinton years, when it was called INS, it worked. There were no sanctuary cities. Illegals were rounded up and deported. From his state of the union address in 1995, then-President Clinton said:

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens.

He received standing ovation. There were no protests. Chuck Schumer didn't cry. Outraged democrats didn't fill cable news shows professing their disgust. Nobody filed any lawsuits, and certainly nobody called Clinton a racist.

Originally Posted by diamelsx

2. Do you know who you are actually fighting on this issue?

Sure.. I'll put them into three categories:

1. The RINOs: The John McCains, Marco Rubios, and Lindsey Grahams of the republican party that still live under the delusion that if they cave on enough stuff, compromise party principles enough, that they'll finally get fawning coverage from the media. It probably worked for McCain (the so-called maverick) but for the rest, not so much. The chickenshits of the republican party.

2. Business: The vast number of American business who have come to rely on an endless supply of cheap, disposable labor. As nobody cracked down on illegal hiring for the past 8 years, it's run rampant. It's mostly in the areas where employers can get away with paying cash-- lawn mowing, drywall, painting, roofing, etc. Last I looked, you still need a tax identification number to open a bank account here. You don't need one to buy money orders to send home. In places that comply with the law regarding eligibility (I-9), you don't see illegals.

3. The Amerlcan left: This group is comprised of the lot of the democrat party, those that fund it, and their accomplices in the establishment media. Every one of them will do what they can to keep the illegals here in hopes that by some twist of fate they're granted amnesty. Once that happens, they see a treasure trove of 25,000,000 new democrat voters just waiting to be harvested.

At the end of the day, this whole thing is about political self-interests and not about some overriding need to be a shepherd to the lost sheep of the world.

[LiamA]

Originally Posted by lothian

Finnish police encouraging children to grass up their own parents over politically incorrect facebook messages .

https://youtu.be/ajJa7-KCkDA

What! They want you to report on your parents. That's what they do in totalitarian countries.

[palo5]

Originally Posted by lothian

Finnish police encouraging children to grass up their own parents over politically incorrect facebook messages .

https://youtu.be/ajJa7-KCkDA

Originally Posted by LiamA

What! They want you to report on your parents. That's what they do in totalitarian countries.

The police don't seriously expect kids to grass on their parents. They want kids to educate their parents if they (the kids) think it's necessary

Finnish kids are cool -- trust them. In school they are taught to think, and are hardly ever tested. But they still beat almost everyone in the world in the PISA surveys, including all the English-speaking countries every single time. Only Japanese & Koreans come close

Btw, there is no state-controlled youth-organization in Finland, such as Hitler Youth, and there is no indoctrination

[AmateurEmale]

I don't know exactly what happened in Berkeley, but the Milo Y. Riots are an example of political correctness gone totally crazy and also violent.

Milo Y. resembles a strange combination of Vanilla Ice and Liberace, the latter because he was gay. I really don't care if there is a such thing as "gay conservative Republicans", but just being anything other than liberal or left-wing on a college campus is asking for some trouble. This is particularly true of Berkeley, CA, which is the Vatican City of liberalism.

I'm glad that I finished college in the early 2000s, and now I'm looking at a trade union apprenticeship that is advertised as "The Other Four-Year Degree"...

[Sir Honkers]

Originally Posted by LiamA

What! They want you to report on your parents. That's what they do in totalitarian countries.

Time we live in sadly

[gordian_knot]

Originally Posted by palo5

The police don't seriously expect kids to grass on their parents. They want kids to educate their parents if they think it's necessary

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Btw, there is no state-controlled youth-organization in Finland, such as Hitler Youth, and there is no indoctrination

The State telling kids what to think. Then setting them against their parents if those parents think differently. And you don't think that's indoctrination .

[palo5]

Originally Posted by gordian_knot

The State telling kids what to think. Then setting them against their parents if those parents think differently. And you don't think that's indoctrination .

No, I don't. Indoctrination is a long, sustained process, not a few-minute gig on youtube that almost no one will see

[diamelsx]

This issue here is an illustration of this. Comic companies are not trying to diversify their titles trying to be PC, their motivation is more of a financial one of getting more readership for their titles, of course their execution of this is terrible due to the fact that even though the titles have diversified the writing staffs have not leaving a disconnect between the readers and the companies. My whole point is that labeling things "PC" is just like labeling things one of the "isms" it is real easy to overlook other important factors in the issue once the liable is put on.