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Old 05-11-2018, 09:36 PM   #34601
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Or at the first sign of failure to comply with the will of the state she could have been declared insane and locked in an asylum.

Russian justice. Admired in a few parts of Finland.
Should have let her fall of a roof, a la Russian style, and blamed it on an accident! The last executions in the United Kingdom were by hanging, and took place in 1964, Russia has not executed anyone since 1996. Officially!
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In Russia
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Dr David Goodall's death certainly reinforces my opinion that the issues around assisted suicide are complex; and thankfully not being left up to people on the internet to decide on. While I confess to having qualms about it, if we are going to deny people the right to chose to die then we have an obligation to give their lives meaning and purpose. Something we don't do.
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Old 05-12-2018, 08:34 AM   #34605
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Dr David Goodall's death certainly reinforces my opinion that the issues around assisted suicide are complex; and thankfully not being left up to people on the internet to decide on. While I confess to having qualms about it, if we are going to deny people the right to chose to die then we have an obligation to give their lives meaning and purpose. Something we don't do.
I agree with your sentiments but when all there is an extremely painful death then there is little you can do.

The wife of a colleague had breast cancer for the second time, she was in her early 60's with 2 adult children and 4 grandchildren. She had had a full and active life but now she had cancer again, this time terminal. For the pain the doctor gave her daily morphine injections, these worked for a time. Eventually the dose wasn't strong enough to take away the agony of the cancer and when she asked for an increase in the dose, the doctor replied "I cannot increase your medication because it would be injurious to your health".

She lasted nearly 3 months before death finally released her from the pain. Assisted suicide does not increase the number of deaths, what it does do is significantly reduce the suffering of a chronically ill person.
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Should have let her fall of a roof, a la Russian style, and blamed it on an accident! The last executions in the United Kingdom were by hanging, and took place in 1964, Russia has not executed anyone since 1996. Officially!
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In UK since 1964, but abroad since at least 2003, isn't it ?
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We're used to drug companies making massive profits with certain drugs. You really don't expect to see a high street name ripping off hospital patients to this extent.
W.H Smith selling toothpaste at 7.99. Pricing error, my ass.

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Well if Britain can't win this stupid competition any other way. Why not hire an asshole to run on stage mid song.

It'll go down in (UK) Eurovision history, I guess.
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Wrong

He had no choice, only one state in Australia allows assisted suicide, and then only if you are terminally ill, David was not, it was a shame he had to travel all that way in order to end his own life.
I still say you're wrong in response-firstly the man was not terminally ill-and it was only his subjective opinion that his life should be ended.
Secondly-he could have ended his life privately-without involving other people-in his own home if needs be.
Thirdly he could have done it without involving the media spectacle that it became.

QED-it WAS all about him-and in particular being the CENTRE of attention for a period. This seems to be a characteristic of these type of crusaders....
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I still say you're wrong in response-firstly the man was not terminally ill-and it was only his subjective opinion that his life should be ended.
He was 104, and tired of life, of his fragility, he wanted the choice of where and when he ended his life, Australian law denied him that.

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Secondly-he could have ended his life privately-without involving other people-in his own home if needs be.
He could of, but what if it went wrong, what if his attempt caused unbearable pain, what if it did not work?

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Thirdly he could have done it without involving the media spectacle that it became.
He wanted to publicise the reasons behind his decision to end his life, and why he had to fly half way around the world to do it, what he wanted was to end his life in Australia surrounded by his loved ones.

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QED-it WAS all about him-and in particular being the CENTRE of attention for a period. This seems to be a characteristic of these type of crusaders....
It was about the right to die, his right to decide when and where, not about being the centre of attention.
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