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Old 05-07-2018, 06:50 PM   #34541
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And that's why Crimea had a referendum to stay with Russia, approved by 97%. Unlike your Brexit vote, this was extremely convincing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea...ferendum,_2014


A referendum held whilst under military occupation, maybe Cameron should have called the army in
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Old 05-07-2018, 06:59 PM   #34542
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A referendum held whilst under military occupation, maybe Cameron should have called the army in
Military occupation of its own people?

Ir's well known your press mislead you and just repeat government lines. I suggest you investigate deeper, or even go there and find out for yourself. It's not difficult to find out what is really the case

Do you know how much Crimea's GDP has grown since it returned to Russia? Think about it
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Ir's well known your press mislead you and just repeat government lines. I suggest you investigate deeper, or even go there and find out for yourself. It's not difficult to find out what is really the case

Do you know how much Crimea's GDP has grown since it returned to Russia? Think about it
Let's agree to differ on this but I did look a little deeper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republ...rimea#Overview

"In June 2015 The Economist estimated that the average salary in Crimea was about two-third of the average salary in Russia. According to Russian statistics by March 2015 the inflation in Crimea was 80%. According to the Crimean authorities local food prices have grown 2.5 times since Russia's annexation. Since then the peninsula now has to import most of its food from Russia."

Crimea's annexation: two years on
http://country.eiu.com/article.aspx?articleid=694194053

"Two years after Russia's annexation of Crimea the peninsula has become a locus of Russia's confrontation with both Turkey and the West. As such, the region has become more militarised and the level of political repression has risen. Despite the fact that Russia has been pouring in funds, local living standards have been undercut by high inflation following a series of supply shocks."
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I always thought the Crimea belonged to the Tartars, at least until the Tsars and Stalin killed or exiled them all.

If you really want to know why no one believes the Russian Government Palo it's because they lie. How long did it take to admit to Katyn. 50 years. 50 years of lying.
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Did Russia suffer any penalties for killing Trotsky? Doesn't seem like Stalin ever denied he ordered the killing. Ramon Mercader got caught and nearly beaten to death by Trotsky's bodyguards. He then served 20 years in a Mexican jail before be treated like a hero by Russian and Cuba.

It just seems like the Russians have gotten better at getting their assassins home without consequences to them. No one is going to believe their denials that they were behind the poisonings.

In the future, when Russia and China start fighting each other, it will be interesting to see what the other countries will do - other than to cook some popcorn and watch.
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Palo defend this

Protesters detained as thousands rally against Putin's government

Russian police detain more than 1,600 protesting Putinís 4th presidential term - The Washington Post

'More than 1,200' arrested as anti-Putin protests held across Russia

Seems your buddy is not as popular as you keep posting.
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On behalf of palo, let me just say, this is blatant western lies, printed in their lying media, you will not finds any of this in the true and honest Russian Press and media!
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On behalf of palo, let me just say, this is blatant western lies, printed in their lying media, you will not finds any of this in the true and honest Russian Press and media!
Wow talk about your cynicism . Me too.
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As consumers we will always have the right to choose what we buy and I will research where possible to find out where things are made.
I always try to avoid buying Chinese because of their treatment of humans and animals. It's not always easy but it is our right as consumers
If only it was possible to know the origin.
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All of those arrested were actually homosexuals advocating their life style where children could see.
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