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Old 05-05-2018, 08:50 PM   #34531
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"that group of people"? You mean the OPCW investigators? I suspect a lot depends on whether or not the Russians allow them access to the site where the attack actually took place. I also suspect they know very well that there will be serious obfuscation, distrataction and misdirection involved. The chemical bit is easy, dealing with the politics in a war zone, not so much.
You are quite correct the OPCW team arrived in Damascus, and after a week, they were given permission to visit the sites, the UN naturally sent in a fully marked up convoy to do a threat report, at the first site, they were met by a large protest, and despite the heavy presence of Russian Military Police, it was made obvious that no support would be coming from that direction, the convoy leader made the decision that the OPCW team would be under serious threat, at the second site, the marked UN convoy came under heavy small arms fire, the decision made was obviously the same.

OPCW have managed to get people on the ground, but they report a great deal of 'sanitation work' has been done in the area.

I expect our Russian contributors will attack this post, I just remind everyone of two things, firstly the Russians have not retaliated, either militarily or diplomatically to the strikes, and secondly the Russians have gone very very quiet on the subject of Salisbury. The exception being the ridiculous claim about the 'D Notice'. One of the most secret documents ever issued by the British Government, which of course they would forward to the Russian Embassy.
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What a savagely backward nation

India girl, 16, burnt alive after Jharkhand rape
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-44016176

It's really hard to get to grips with India on one hand it wants to embrace progress and is keen to attract Western money and on the other it is held back by retarded religious zealots of all kinds.

The authorities, such as they are, appear unable to get a grip on these fundamental religious bastards. Almost every day we hear of some truly savage attacks, underneath all that Bollywood bollocks the country is a backward cesspit of corruption and fanaticism.
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Careful what You say,They could be one of Our trading partners in Our "Global Future"
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I always try to avoid buying Chinese because of their treatment of humans and animals. It's not always easy but it is our right as consumers
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India is already a very important UK trading partner now, today. India is ranked third in overseas investors in the UK economy and Britain is ranked third in overseas investors in the Indian economy. We already have a series of bi-lateral trade agreements with India.
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When I visited India I couldn't believe the poverty, and the difference between the rich and poor, gardeners crawling across a rich guys lawn cutting it with scissors, and they have a space programme
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In reply to Donny Fartpants speech to the NRA

Trump's London knife crime comments ridiculous, says surgeon
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44017054


Does anyone give that dickwad any actual intelligence notes before he opens his mouth or does he just say what he thinks his intended audience want to hear, I firmly suspect the latter.
Absolutely he ignores all the intelligence briefs he gets and ignores his handlers. That's been verified many times. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...?noredirect=on

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"that in London, which has unbelievably tough gun laws, a once very prestigious hospital right in the middle is like a war zone for horrible stabbing wounds".

I suspect the ignorant pompadoured twat has never actually been near a war zone except under massive security details.
He's never been near a war zone, period.

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I cannot wait to see what the numbnut says when he actually comes over here
You just insulted numbnuts around the planet.

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Get Smart indeed you air-headed NRA glove puppet
He's not even smart enough to BE an NRA glove puppet.
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He's not even smart enough to BE an NRA glove puppet.
The comments Mr Trump made in the same speech to the NRA concerning the Bataclan nightclub terrorist outrage in 2015 certainly support this view. After his recent overtures to President Macron of France, this astonishing insult to France seems to indicate a complete disconnect, a total inability to use joined up thinking. What advantage can there possibly be in offending the French people, except to please the NRA and his audience there, who in fairness did nothing to indicate that they wanted him to alienate an important international US ally and partner, and might not necessarily want to be associated with the comments Mt Trump made.
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On a slightly less depressing note, I noticed something this week which may offer part of the much needed path forward for a better future in a world which is going to be much more crowded and much harder to keep environmentally clean with so much human activity and exploitation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-43961898

Heavy metal contamination of the environment by human activity is nothing new. I remember being on a school trip to the Pennine hills above Wharfedale and walking along the banks of a small beck (stream) and through a cutting in the hills. There were large mounds of mine waste near the beck, still innocent of grass, which had been there for hundreds of years. The place was a former lead mine, worked by hand since at least Roman times but abandoned hundreds of years ago. There was a token human presence, noticeable only by the sight of a single diesel generator, because there is fluorite to be found in the old mineshafts and in the piles of waste, and fluorite has a commercial value nowadays. But the teachers firmly warned us not to drink the water anywhere in these hills because:
  • You can get liver flukes from the water due to all the sheep in the area.
  • There is liable to be toxic heavy metal pollution from the various lead mines, even though none of them has been worked for hundreds of years.

There are already various ways available to treat heavy metal pollution in water, but none of them are cheap. Usually, private commercial enterprises don't want to pay for something which doesn't directly generate profits and much more often than not they will dump untreated toxic water into the river network to save money. They risk punishment but generally get away with it.

The advantage of a cheap and portable solution such as the one in the BBC story is that, if it is cheap enough, easy enough to install and really does the job, then it changes the cost-benefit equation. Private commercial enterprises don't really want to risk being subjected to punitive sanctions and bad publicity, but will do it to avoid the costs of conventional water treatment if these are too expensive. If the costs are low and there is a benefit to be had in terms of risk management and potentially good publicity from being able to demonstrate that they are environmentally responsible, a lot of private mining enterprises will be rather interested, even in the USA where people far too often couldn't care less about the environment - unless there there is something in it for them.

Cheapness and ease of installation will be critical if this new idea is going to become widespread, but it is easy to see the potential. It might even be possible to use solar or hydro-electric power sources in conjunction and save petrol or diesel on running the process, both cleaner air and cheaper bottom line cost.

There is an awful lot of contaminated water out there just waiting for a flash flood to force it out of storage ponds into the drinking water supply. This new technique could be seriously good news for our future.
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OPCW have managed to get people on the ground, but they report a great deal of 'sanitation work' has been done in the area
Says who and where? I've heard nothing about that. But I'll tell you something we both know without looking -- people will remove bodies & body parts (to bury them) and this does involve disinfecting areas where there are body fluids etc. It also won't be possible to hide all traces of a chemical attack, which I sincerely doubt took place. So wait for their results

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I don't believe either of the attacks took place, and nor does Moscow. It wouldn't be the first time your people had manufactured a story and sold it to a gullible people & parliament, would it? Both stories are unravelling, as the last one did
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