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Old July 9th, 2018, 08:54 AM   #34191
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A basic hotel room was about $250-300 a night and I ain't talking about a 4-5 stars hotel, this was about 2009.

Now I just looked and it's even higher, as high as $500 a night for a basic room.

I remember paying 22 GBP for a sandwich and a non alcoholic drink at lunch during one of my 2 days stops in London in 2008.

That's about $29 U.S.D.

My sister and my brother went to the 2012 Summer Olympics in London.

They tried to get me to join them.

I said count me out!
Erm! Speaking as a Londoner and frequent user of hotel rooms, I have to say that isn't right. I stay regularly at hotels in Gloucester Road and Gower Street and it ranges from £90 to £110 so I am a bit confused by your experience.

As for £22 for a sandwich and drink I am speechless. I could name a thousand places where you'd get a full meal for almost half that. Try the Three Tuns pub in Marylebone or Steam at Monument. Great grub for about £12.
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The best possible deal "within" the EU and those deals and opts out were negotiated because of strong leadership, something we really need right now..
Well yes. That's what I'm saying.

As we are now heading for a "soft" Brexit, how can we expect to do better or even roughly parallel without pretty much staying in?

But I recognise that the vote was about more than that - free movement, quotas, democratic deficit etc. I'm just fed up with Brexiteers telling me we will be better off financially when we certainly won't be - at least not in the short term.

Maybe in the future, who knows? Sliding doors and all that.
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Erm! Speaking as a Londoner and frequent user of hotel rooms, I have to say that isn't right. I stay regularly at hotels in Gloucester Road and Gower Street and it ranges from £90 to £110 so I am a bit confused by your experience.
I remember it was the Hilton and the Sheraton.

I just GOOGLE Hilton London which gave me a map with prices of the many Hilton hotels in London:



I also just GOOGLE Sheraton London which only resulted in one Sheraton hotel with prices starting at $363-376 for a basic room:



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As for £22 for a sandwich and drink I am speechless. I could name a thousand places where you'd get a full meal for almost half that. Try the Three Tuns pub in Marylebone or Steam at Monument. Great grub for about £12.
When are you are not from there and you are only there for a day to three days, you don't know where to go.

I haven't been to London enough times and stayed long enough each time to know all the cheaper places to stay at and all the tourist traps areas to avoid and all the best places to get a decent meal without breaking my wallet.

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But I recognise that the vote was about more than that - free movement, quotas, democratic deficit etc. I'm just fed up with Brexiteers telling me we will be better off financially when we certainly won't be - at least not in the short term.

Maybe in the future, who knows? Sliding doors and all that.
I am a Brexit supporter and have never thought there would be any instant massive financial windfall, if the EU negotiate rather than demand then the UK will be rightly paying into the EU for some time for projects started whilst we were a member state.

I have always thought long term, rather like us voting to stay in the EEC in 1975 and decades later it becoming the EU, there were warning signs but we were told it would never happen

Right now we have to say to the EU this is our offer and if they don't like it we should walk away, every time we give in it weakens us. Yes sensible parties always ask for more at negotiations knowing the compromise will be nearer to what they actually wanted.

It is not the fault of the UK, if the EU had drawn up proper rules for Article 50 it would have been a lot smoother. I bet even now they are tightening the rules on leaving so that no other state would ever dare to consider it.

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I remember it was the Hilton and the Sheraton.

I just GOOGLE Hilton London which gave me a map with prices of the many Hilton hotels in London:



I also just GOOGLE Sheraton London which only resulted in one Sheraton hotel with prices starting at $363-376 for a basic room:




When are you are not from there and you are only there for a day to three days, you don't know where to go.

I haven't been to London enough times and stayed long enough each time to know all the cheaper places to stay at and all the tourist traps areas to avoid and all the best places to get a decent meal without breaking my wallet.
Unfortunately, you will always pay top dollar at Park Lane hotels. Proper food in London is also expensive with some places charging £60 for tea (2 people with cakes and stuff). My own recommendation would be to find a decent hotel in the suburbs and use the underground if you want to visit Central London. It's the same kind of situation in Paris, Berlin or Moscow where the rip-off rules.
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And now for something completely different!

I'd been unaware of this until today. No publicity and no mention by the UK media.

http://thehill.com/opinion/internati...oul-of-us-laws

It now seems that the bill is on hold for the moment.
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Unfortunately, you will always pay top dollar at Park Lane hotels. Proper food in London is also expensive with some places charging £60 for tea (2 people with cakes and stuff). My own recommendation would be to find a decent hotel in the suburbs and use the underground if you want to visit Central London. It's the same kind of situation in Paris, Berlin or Moscow where the rip-off rules.
The company I worked for at the time, they have folks that booked flights and hotels.

Guess they figured close to Central London was the best place to put us.
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I remember it was the Hilton and the Sheraton.

When are you are not from there and you are only there for a day to three days, you don't know where to go.

I haven't been to London enough times and stayed long enough each time to know all the cheaper places to stay at and all the tourist traps areas to avoid and all the best places to get a decent meal without breaking my wallet.
The next time you come over, PM me.

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When I was working for that company in the 2000's, I stopped in London over half a dozen times (not counting catching connecting flights at Heathrow).

Never did get any fish and chips.

We did go to one restaurant once and one of my colleague ordered Yorkshire Pudding for dessert.

He didn't know what it was. He thought it was pudding.



We weren't paying attention and didn't hear him order it.

The waitress didn't try to stop him. She probably just thought him being a big 6 feet 4 inches tall 220 lbs American, he just had a big appetite.

We thought it was funny.

The thing came with enough meat to grow an entire cow.
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Boris has just resigned!

https://www.express.co.uk/

I think Saint Theresa is in the shit!
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