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Old 04-14-2018, 01:19 PM   #34181
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What disturb me the most is that neither Assad, nor Putin, nor May, nor Macro or Trump do represent the point of view of all their populations.

They play with their soldiers like children playing with Playmobils.
But there are civilian people who die because of these "sporadic dictators".
Indeed. The PTB's sold British naval sovereignty to the EU for 30 pieces of sliver, and then set forth and attack folk who have done no harm to the at all.
Western governments are dangerous and out of control, a threat to their own people as well as those who interfere with their geopolitical agendas, agendas that have noting to do with the well-being of their respective constituencies, quite the opposite, in fact.
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Old 04-14-2018, 01:53 PM   #34182
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Syria air strikes: US and allies attack 'chemical weapons sites
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43762251


"At a Pentagon briefing shortly after Mr Trump's announcement, Gen Joseph Dunford listed three targets that had been struck:

A scientific research facility in Damascus, allegedly connected to the production of chemical and biological weapons
A chemical weapons storage facility west of Homs
A chemical weapons equipment storage site and an important command post, also near Homs"

I hope our intelligence on identifying chemical weapons has improved since the Iraq war
First of all the disclaimer. This is just an assessment according to my private current state of 'knowledge' of the developing situation in Syria.

No weapon systems of the Russian forces stationed in Syria were used during the illegal attack. All S-400 systems were inactive. The job was done by Syrian air defense forces alone. The following systems were used to defend Syrian airspace.

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All in all, it was a resounding success. 90 out of 97 missiles were either neutralized by electronic countermeasures or shot down by Syrian air defense. 7 missiles hit their intended target without causing too much damage, the remainder consisted of identified decoys. In addition, several Israeli UAVs were shot down. The Russian air force confined itself to blockading techniques against attacking enemy air force, which promptly withdrew after coughing up their fancy load.

According to first reports, there were 4 fatalities and several injured on the Syrian side. Of course, these numbers can change over the next few days or weeks. President Assad arrived punctually to work today and started business as usual.

The whole stunt was a coordinated, one time 230 Millionen US nothing burger deluxe. Well, it could be worse. Just imagine they would have spend that money on education or medical care.
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The whole stunt was a coordinated, one time 230 Millionen US nothing burger deluxe. Well, it could be worse. Just imagine they would have spend that money on education or medical care.
Or better yet, not taken the money from the taxpayers in the first place.
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Autism.
THE worst of the lot CATACLYSM but you will notice it isn't spelt with ISM...odd that!
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First of all the disclaimer. This is just an assessment according to my private current state of 'knowledge' of the developing situation in Syria.

No weapon systems of the Russian forces stationed in Syria were used during the illegal attack. All S-400 systems were inactive. The job was done by Syrian air defense forces alone. The following systems were used to defend Syrian airspace.

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All in all, it was a resounding success. 90 out of 97 missiles were either neutralized by electronic countermeasures or shot down by Syrian air defense. 7 missiles hit their intended target without causing too much damage, the remainder consisted of identified decoys. In addition, several Israeli UAVs were shot down. The Russian air force confined itself to blockading techniques against attacking enemy air force, which promptly withdrew after coughing up their fancy load.

According to first reports, there were 4 fatalities and several injured on the Syrian side. Of course, these numbers can change over the next few days or weeks. President Assad arrived punctually to work today and started business as usual.

The whole stunt was a coordinated, one time 230 Millionen US nothing burger deluxe. Well, it could be worse. Just imagine they would have spend that money on education or medical care.
More ridiculous waste of the taxpayer's money.
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Altruism.
No such thing! Altruists do their altruistic thing because it makes them feel good about themselves.
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90 out of 97 missiles were either neutralized by electronic countermeasures or shot down by Syrian air defense. 7 missiles hit their intended target without causing too much damage, the remainder consisted of identified decoys. In addition, several Israeli UAVs were shot down. The Russian air force confined itself to blockading techniques against attacking enemy air force, which promptly withdrew after coughing up their fancy load.
Evidence?
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THE worst of the lot CATACLYSM but you will notice it isn't spelt with ISM...odd that!
But did you know that people who believe there will be a cataclysm are called
'Cataclysmists' and what they believe is called 'Cataclysmism'?


We've been told that "We" have bombed several Chemical weapons facilities in Syria as punishment of for Assad'a use of Chemical weapons.

But what I'd like to know is:

1) For how long have We known about these facilities and why have We not told anyone about them until now?

2) If We have known about them for a while, why were We not watching them closely in case weapons were moved from them to helicopters/planes prior to use?

3) If We have known about these facilities for a while, why is the only 'evidence' We have, is of that given by 'open sources' who allege a barrel bomb was dropped, and other 'open sources' who allege that a helicopter was seen over head at some point, and Theresa May says that as the opposition don't have helicopters then it must be Assad who dun it?
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Evidence?
Bit late for that.
If the need for actual evidence was required then they wouldn't have been firing those multi million pound apiece missiles in the first place.
You`d think.
Or I`d like to.
If wasn't a realist.
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