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Old 04-13-2018, 12:44 AM   #34161
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Nuclear war will not extinct humanity, but it can destroy nations, but then again, so does PC.
Perhaps not but, depending on how many nuclear powers would be involved, humanity could find itself back in the stone age. Thousands of years of civilization wiped out in a couple of minutes. Einstein once said that he doesn't know what weapons will be used in WWIII but WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones. Now that may not be the entire truth but the thought of a full-scale nuclear war between the world's most powerful militaries should be frightening to every human being with a minimum of intelligence. Apart from the millions who would die in nuclear attacks, even more will die from famine, radiation, diseases and the struggle to survive against other survivors. I don't think that the concept of nations will be anyone's priority in a world like that.
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Old 04-13-2018, 12:56 AM   #34162
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Perhaps not but, depending on how many nuclear powers would be involved, humanity could find itself back in the stone age. Thousands of years or civilization wiped out in a couple of minutes. Einstein once said that he doesn't know what weapons will be used in WWIII but WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones. Now that may not be the entire truth but the thought of a full-scale nuclear war between the world's most powerful militaries should be frightening to every human being with a minimum of intelligence. Apart from the millions who would die in nuclear attacks, even more will die from famine, radiation, diseases and the struggle to survive against other survivors. I don't think that the concept of nations will be anyone's priority in a world like that.
I suggest you do the math.
It may be able to put us back to late 19th century.
Yeah, a lot of people would die, but the death rate wouldn't be any worse than what Mao or Stalin or other commies did.
People still live in Vegas and Hiroshima, places that were hit by or close by to nukes that were much, much dirtier than the nukes that currently exist.
As a human being, I refuse to be frightened into submission by pie-in-the-sky chicken little BS prophecies, like nuclear Armageddon or global warming, the answer to both being more taxes and less freedom for individuals, coincidentally enough.
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Old 04-13-2018, 01:08 AM   #34163
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Apart from the millions who would die in nuclear attacks, even more will die from famine, radiation, diseases and the struggle to survive

Too many people in the world anyway and most of them have no table manners, are rude, and downright unpleasant to look at.

Mind you I can't say that a few gassed infants in some shithole like Syria is a good enough reason to start lobbing missiles about the place.
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You do have to wonder about that video,All it shows is children being doused with water,None of Them seem to be in any distress,Certainly nothing like in previous attacks.The footage showing bloodstained children rent by shrapnel and shell splinters is far more harrowing,Yet no one cares enough to risk war over that.
That said,President Trump is rowing back from imminent military action,Someone's obviously had a word..
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You do have to wonder about that video,All it shows is children being doused with water,None of Them seem to be in any distress,Certainly nothing like in previous attacks.The footage showing bloodstained children rent by shrapnel and shell splinters is far more harrowing,Yet no one cares enough to risk war over that.
That said,President Trump is rowing back from imminent military action,Someone's obviously had a word..
I'm sure that Assad loves having his assets bombed by the Americans, so as soon as Trump announced he was gonna pull out his troops, he gassed some women and children.
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Old 04-13-2018, 01:40 PM   #34166
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Thumbs down What about the Kurds too. Forty million strong , yet refused their own nation and treated like dirt. Despite them battling ISIS full on while getting shelled by Turkey at the same time !

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The footage showing bloodstained children rent by shrapnel and shell splinters is far more harrowing,Yet no one cares enough to risk war over that.
Exactly
Or if it`s a politically inconvenient war the death (Many through starvation lately) and maiming of hundreds and thousands is flat out ignored. As in the case of Yemen`s population. Who`s biggest crime is wanting to be free of criminals masquerading as a government. Why haven't we flown to their aid.
Mind you good old champion of defending the innocent Tezza May wouldn't want to hamper the arms deals we have with Saudi Arabia would she
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I'm sure that Assad loves having his assets bombed by the Americans, so as soon as Trump announced he was gonna pull out his troops, he gassed some women and children.
I'm beginning to see one misleading piece of information after another about Salisbury and Syria carried by the media and I think these two events are linked. I cannot escape the feeling that we are watching some kind of planned operation to condition the Western public and push things to the brink with the Russians as Ronnie did, back in 1983, with a military exercise that almost led to a hot war. I know some of you on VEF won't agree with me and probably believe that Putin is to blame for everything. I'm certainly not a member of his fan club, nor am I a left-wing Corbyn fan who wants to see him in Downing Street. But we have people supposedly running our country who seem to be doing as they please, without answering to anyone. Trump continues to post bizarre messages on line - you might say what's new, and I genuinely believe that what's taking place is very wrong. It's like a madness seemed to have overtaken common sense.

If you see things differently then fair enough, but I think our leaders are playing very dangerous games, which nobody seems to appreciate or want to question.
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If you see things differently then fair enough, but I think our leaders are playing very dangerous games, which nobody seems to appreciate or want to question.
I have thought ever since he started campaigning for President that there are far too many disturbing similarities between Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler. The same populist, nationalism appeals to the population, the same "I don't have to listen to anyone else and everything I do is by definition above reproach" attitude, the same chaotic way of running the government on whims. the same "we were once great and we're going to be great again as soon as we take down those who betrayed us" message. Provoking and winning a war feels like exactly the kind of thing Trump would like to do.

One of the tidbits from the book that just came out from the former FBI director is that Trump demands personal loyalty out of everyone he deals with in the government, above their oaths of office to the US Constitution. Reminds me of Hitler changing the German military's oath to one of personal fealty to himself.
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