Current Politics in the United Kingdom - Page 641

**vo1v0d** · May 7th, 2019, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by palo5

In the EU press today there is an interview with new "Brexit Party" chief Nigel Farage. As usual, he ridicules himself

He says if his party "wins" the coming EU elections, it will be a victory for no-deal brexit and WTO conditions for UK, and therefore his party must be on the UK negotiating team

But if he doesn't want a deal, wtf can he negotiate?

Idiot!

Sorry to correct you on seeming trivia, but to ridicule oneself means he has some self awareness. What you men is he made himself look ridiculous.
I envy the prick, really. He has made a career out of nothing more than being an arsehole. How difficult can that be, even if you are not a politican or banker?

**scoundrel** · May 7th, 2019, 07:45 PM

Just on a point of order - if Britain leaves the European Union without a deal there will be a lot to talk about and a lot of negotiating required urgently. The EU would not really want to live for long with a hard Irsih border and only stupid people in the UK would think this was unimportant. There are various interested parties on both sides whose business would be adversely affected by tariffs and/or problems with goods in transit. The motor manufacturers are only one example among many. The no-deal Brexit would be the worst available outcome for European fishermen and might lead to a revocation of all their post 1973 fishing rights in British waters.

In the event of a no-deal Brexit there would at a minimum be a need to control the events following and avoid disruption as far as possible. What is not clear to me at the moment is whether either side would see things this way.

**Devius** · May 7th, 2019, 08:56 PM

The UK will have to hold European elections, despite hopes from the government a Brexit deal would be done by then, says the PM's de facto deputy.

The vote is due on 23 May, but Theresa May said the UK would not have to take part if MPs agreed a Brexit plan first.

Now, David Lidington says "regrettably" it is "not going to be possible to finish that process" before the date the UK legally has to take part.

Source:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48188951

**vo1v0d** · May 7th, 2019, 08:56 PM

If we leave the EU with no desl we will have full employment. Every fucking one of us would be drafted into the civil service to do the paperwork for the millions of new deals that have to be made.

**scoundrel** · May 7th, 2019, 09:02 PM

Actually, I thought we were going to be a deal-free zone and shunned by the whole world community, left to take in washing and sell our bottoms in public toilets...

I wish people would make their minds up.

**vo1v0d** · May 7th, 2019, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoundrel

Actually, I thought we were going to be a deal-free zone and shunned by the whole world community, left to take in washing and sell our bottoms in public toilets...

I wish people would make their minds up.

not again

**Wendigo** · May 7th, 2019, 09:37 PM

Liverpool have just shown how hard it is for Britain to leave Europe

They will just not let us leave

**dohupa** · May 8th, 2019, 04:19 PM

I wish Britain would have chosen otherwise, but I am sure the Brit public had their reasons.

I reckon Europe as well as Britain will both be a lot weaker after the deal is settled.

**palo5** · May 8th, 2019, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scoundrel

The no-deal Brexit would be the worst available outcome for European fishermen and might lead to a revocation of all their post 1973 fishing rights in British waters

It wouldn't be good for anyone. Apparently, almost no one in Britain eats fish caught in British waters. So if the British caught the fish themselves, but couldn't sell them fresh in the EU, the price downgrade is obvious

**scoundrel** · May 8th, 2019, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by palo5

It wouldn't be good for anyone. Apparently, almost no one in Britain eats fish caught in British waters. So if the British caught the fish themselves, but couldn't sell them fresh in the EU, the price downgrade is obvious

And yet, if the criteria is that the fish must be fresh and not frozen, the European Union will find itself in short supply in such a case.

There would be a lot more cod in the North Sea if the Danish fishermen were prohibited from taking sand eels. In 2017, the EU raised the Danish quota from 82,000 tonnes to 458,000 tonnes, nearly all of which comes from British waters. I would make sand eels a protected species and set everyone's quota at nil, with drastic penalties for anyone caught fishing for them - by "drastic" I mean stuff like imprisonment for the captain and crew, and destroying the ship used. When the sand eel population recovers, so will the cod population; and there will be cod in EU waters as well as British waters.

Until then, they who would like fresh fish will need to trade with those who have fresh fish, or do without. Likewise they who have fresh fish for sale will need to seek out and negotiate with people who who have money and would like to buy fresh fish. Trade is not going to stop.

May 7th, 2019, 07:45 PM	#6402
scoundrel Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England Posts: 26,267 Thanks: 162,482 Thanked 278,830 Times in 26,212 Posts	Just on a point of order - if Britain leaves the European Union without a deal there will be a lot to talk about and a lot of negotiating required urgently. The EU would not really want to live for long with a hard Irsih border and only stupid people in the UK would think this was unimportant. There are various interested parties on both sides whose business would be adversely affected by tariffs and/or problems with goods in transit. The motor manufacturers are only one example among many. The no-deal Brexit would be the worst available outcome for European fishermen and might lead to a revocation of all their post 1973 fishing rights in British waters. In the event of a no-deal Brexit there would at a minimum be a need to control the events following and avoid disruption as far as possible. What is not clear to me at the moment is whether either side would see things this way. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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May 7th, 2019, 09:02 PM	#6405
scoundrel Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: England Posts: 26,267 Thanks: 162,482 Thanked 278,830 Times in 26,212 Posts	Actually, I thought we were going to be a deal-free zone and shunned by the whole world community, left to take in washing and sell our bottoms in public toilets... I wish people would make their minds up. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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dohupa Beer, porn and whatnot... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Athens Posts: 3,643 Thanks: 5,623 Thanked 73,144 Times in 3,245 Posts	I wish Britain would have chosen otherwise, but I am sure the Brit public had their reasons. I reckon Europe as well as Britain will both be a lot weaker after the deal is settled. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.