Current Politics in the United Kingdom

[haroldeye]

There is a video going around of the shadow chancellor admitting he is a marxist. Look at their policies and apply any measure you will find they are far left.



Though perhaps this depends on either where one is standing, or how capable of facing reality one is. I use one not to sound posh but not to accuse you of either.

[CARLTON BROWN]

Originally Posted by Jota

Regarding the wankfest tory leadership contest. The doddering old bigots who will choose theirs and our new glorious leader are a bunch of rockets as another recent poll showed. Our next leader will be chosen by a bunch of demented fuckwits who couldn't spell 'EU' let alone tell you where it is and what it does.

So it seems fair to say that you hate the Tory Party, you hate their supporters, you hate older people, you think Tory voters are intolerant racists and you couldn't care less about sufferers of dementia.

Anything I've missed out here? Maybe the "Rocket Poll" - whatever that might be. Where can I find it?

[frankoboff]

Originally Posted by haroldeye

There is a video going around of the shadow chancellor admitting he is a marxist. Look at their policies and apply any measure you will find they are far left.



Though perhaps this depends on either where one is standing, or how capable of facing reality one is. I use one not to sound posh but not to accuse you of either.

That was McDonald playing to his crowd, as was that video of Cameron calling for 'a permanent age of austerity'

Not defending the grusome twosome by the way. I don't like Corbyn or McDonald either however some of the polices are good.


Re: Marxism- well if you're going to be puritanical about it then the NHS is Marxism as was bailing out the banks so people didn't lose their savings and houses.

Seems a shame to reject sensible ideas just because they got a mention in Das Kapital.

Originally Posted by haroldeye

...or how capable of facing reality one is. I use one not to sound posh but not to accuse you of either.

Never had you down as a class warrior.

[frankoboff]

Originally Posted by CARLTON BROWN

So it seems fair to say that you hate the Tory Party, you hate their supporters, you hate older people, you think Tory voters are intolerant racists and you couldn't care less about sufferers of dementia.

Anything I've missed out here? Maybe the "Rocket Poll" - whatever that might be. Where can I find it?

You've got to remember that most in Scotland voted to remain. If it's no deal or a bad deal economically then you can understand why more people are feeling more positive about breaking up the Union.

I have family in Scotland and I'm currently looking to move myself and my business there as an option if things go wrong. Like the majority of online UK B2Cs 70% of my customer base is in the EU, 25% in the UK. Export tariffs and shipping costs prevent me from expanding that 5% from outside the EU.

[haroldeye]

Just a working class lad with a natural antipathy to people who think they are smarter than everyone else.

[otokonomidori]

Originally Posted by frankoboff

I have family in Scotland and I'm currently looking to move myself and my business there

"White settlers" we call you up here !

[frankoboff]

Originally Posted by otokonomidori

I live in the damned place and I can find no poll which shows a majority for independence - the closest is 49% - 51%

The polling was done across the country, Scotland included. I think what he was trying so say is that most Tory Party members want Brexit at any cost. The polling quoted was done by YouGov I believe.

There's a strong contrast to made between the Conservative Party of the 1980s and 90s and that of now. Post 2008 they've had little in the way of messaging on prosperity nor being the party of opportunity and self-determination.

Cameron fell back on old tropes like 'Don't trust Labour with the economy,' and 'Don't trust Labour on immigration' in both 2010 and 2015. The only mention of entrepreneurship in that time period was Cameron's omni-shambles "have a punt, have a go" speech when the ecomomy was picked up around 2012-13.

[palo5]

Johnson says he will take UK out of EU on 10.31 "do or die"

[palo5]

Originally Posted by palo5

Johnson says he will take UK out of EU on 10.31 "do or die"

Although this would dignify him if you thought he would do it himself. There is no evidence of personal courage from Johnson anywhere

Same as this charlatan:

"Nigel Farage has said he would, “don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines” if Theresa May fails to deliver Brexit in the fashion he wants"

The truth is, Farage has no military experience, probably couldn't tie his boots, and couldn't run 100 m either. That's aside from not knowing how to use a rifle

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by palo5

Although this would dignify him if you thought he would do it himself. There is no evidence of personal courage from Johnson anywhere

Same as this charlatan:

"Nigel Farage has said he would, “don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines” if Theresa May fails to deliver Brexit in the fashion he wants"

The truth is, Farage has no military experience, probably couldn't tie his boots, and couldn't run 100 m either. That's aside from not knowing how to use a rifle

I seem to remember Boris Johnson was going to lie down in front of the bulldozers if work ever starts on Heathrow Airport Runway Three. He didn't even vote against it in the House of Commons.