Who was the King? Entertainer - Page 3

**blondifan** · July 1st, 2009, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ballyhoo67

Frank Zappa baby, Frank Zappa!!!

Frank didn't give a crap about the things MJ and EP obsessed over. all he did was make music, great music! period.

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You..
It was my misfortune to watch part of an Australian tribute to MJ a couple of nights ago, in which they proclaimed Jacko as "a musical genius who gave the world the moonwalk", then proceeded to focus on his dancing and challenging each other to moonwalk, until I turned it off in disgust.

My thoughts went to Frank, who is rightfully one of very few of the last century who deserves to be called a musical genius.

Moonwalking is as bicycles to fish, when it comes to music.

Speaking of bicycles Frank 'played' one on the Steve Allen show in 1963 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9P2V0_p6vE

Estreeter · July 1st, 2009, 05:20 AM

Just my humble opinion
The King,

Gave modern rock music a huge kick start

The Boss

Wearing a button in a small tribute to The King

Also a title he earned but is uncomfortable with

Insisting on being called a King

didn't write the majority his of music or songs

**retro72** · July 1st, 2009, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by blondifan

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You..
It was my misfortune to watch part of an Australian tribute to MJ a couple of nights ago, in which they proclaimed Jacko as "a musical genius who gave the world the moonwalk", then proceeded to focus on his dancing and challenging each other to moonwalk, until I turned it off in disgust.

My thoughts went to Frank, who is rightfully one of very few of the last century who deserves to be called a musical genius.

Moonwalking is as bicycles to fish, when it comes to music.

speaking of bicycles frank 'Played' one on the Steve Allen show in 1963http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9P2V0_p6vE

Agreed. Musical genius has zero to do with mainstream limelight and media popularity. It does my head in when 'pop' stars are hailed as such when bands that don't court the spotlight or aren't 'commercial' enough have 500 times more talent. I mean Pete Docherty = genius?! Crap....

Rfan · July 1st, 2009, 07:32 AM

If you're talking entertainer then I dont think just fronting a band covers it. The 50-60's produced some of the best entertainers, like Dean Martin etc. They did it all, sang, danced, comedy etc. This may be an odd choice but I'm going to opt for Sammy Davis Jnr. He was a ball of energy and did everything to entertain his audience, sadly I've only ever seen recordings of his shows.

Cheers.

**Leprechaun** · July 1st, 2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Estreeter

Just my humble opinion
The King,

Gave modern rock music a huge kick start

The Boss

Wearing a button in a small tribute to The King

Also a title he earned but is uncomfortable with

And here's The King's king and The Boss' boss (historically):

Bill Haley, the 'founder' of Rock music.

Estreeter · July 1st, 2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Leprechaun

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And here's The King's king and The Boss' boss (historically):

Bill Haley, the 'founder' of Rock music.

Well said Leprechaun, and here are some of his disciples

**imtrying** · July 2nd, 2009, 01:13 AM

Here's a name I haven't seen mentioned yet (including by me): Chuck Berry. John Lennon once said, "If Chuck Berry was white, he would have been called The King of Rock and Roll". Chuck sang, played guitar, danced, wrote songs that are the very foundation of the music we call "Rock and Roll" and did it all looking cool as hell. Maybe Lennon was on to something.

tommel · July 2nd, 2009, 01:48 AM

Mojo Nixon had it right.... Elvis is everywhere and Elvis is still the King.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_hkIN38qnY

-Tommel

snorkie · July 2nd, 2009, 04:42 AM

It could easily be argued that for the title of King of Rock N' Roll, Chuck Berry and Little Richard never got a fair shot. Think of how closely the Beach Boys copied Berry's melodies (they eventually had to pay royalties). Pat Boone's career was built on ripping off Little Richard.

That said, I have three nominees:
King of Jazz and Standards (vocals): Frank Sinatra
King of Rock and Roll: Elvis Presley (for extra points Elvis won his Grammies in what category*)
King of Pop: Micheal Jackson - just on the strength of "Thriller" alone.

BTW, if you want a King of Bedroom music, Marvin Gaye retired that trophy a long time ago (sorry Barry White, and Mike McDonald fans).

*Gospel

**eelcat** · July 2nd, 2009, 07:29 AM

Two of the greatest names in music at the time, namely Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney get together for a duet. You'd have to think that whatever these two churn out would be the greatest thing since sliced bread. "Say, Say, Say" and "This Girl Is Mine" would have to be two of the crappiest pieces of crap in the history of music.

Now lets spare a thought for Karl Malden who just passed away. At least he entertained me in The Streets of San Francisco....and the American Express commercials.

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Rfan Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Tyranny of Distance Posts: 78 Thanks: 463 Thanked 720 Times in 69 Posts	If you're talking entertainer then I dont think just fronting a band covers it. The 50-60's produced some of the best entertainers, like Dean Martin etc. They did it all, sang, danced, comedy etc. This may be an odd choice but I'm going to opt for Sammy Davis Jnr. He was a ball of energy and did everything to entertain his audience, sadly I've only ever seen recordings of his shows. Cheers. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

July 2nd, 2009, 04:42 AM	#29
snorkie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Gizmonics Institute Posts: 521 Thanks: 2,711 Thanked 4,566 Times in 510 Posts	Lots of Ways to look at this . . . It could easily be argued that for the title of King of Rock N' Roll, Chuck Berry and Little Richard never got a fair shot. Think of how closely the Beach Boys copied Berry's melodies (they eventually had to pay royalties). Pat Boone's career was built on ripping off Little Richard. That said, I have three nominees: King of Jazz and Standards (vocals): Frank Sinatra King of Rock and Roll: Elvis Presley (for extra points Elvis won his Grammies in what category) King of Pop: Micheal Jackson - just on the strength of "Thriller" alone. BTW, if you want a King of Bedroom music, Marvin Gaye retired that trophy a long time ago (sorry Barry White, and Mike McDonald fans). Gospel

July 2nd, 2009, 01:13 AM	#27
imtrying Vintage Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 14,832 Thanked 17,244 Times in 1,043 Posts	Here's a name I haven't seen mentioned yet (including by me): Chuck Berry. John Lennon once said, "If Chuck Berry was white, he would have been called The King of Rock and Roll". Chuck sang, played guitar, danced, wrote songs that are the very foundation of the music we call "Rock and Roll" and did it all looking cool as hell. Maybe Lennon was on to something.

July 2nd, 2009, 01:48 AM	#28
tommel Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Commonwealth of PA Posts: 59 Thanks: 116 Thanked 1,742 Times in 56 Posts	Mojo Nixon had it right.... Elvis is everywhere and Elvis is still the King. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_hkIN38qnY -Tommel

July 2nd, 2009, 07:29 AM	#30
eelcat Vintage Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 660 Thanks: 2,389 Thanked 6,300 Times in 648 Posts	Two of the greatest names in music at the time, namely Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney get together for a duet. You'd have to think that whatever these two churn out would be the greatest thing since sliced bread. "Say, Say, Say" and "This Girl Is Mine" would have to be two of the crappiest pieces of crap in the history of music. Now lets spare a thought for Karl Malden who just passed away. At least he entertained me in The Streets of San Francisco....and the American Express commercials.