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October 25th, 2013, 10:16 PM | #521 | |
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I'd like to say that what you are witnessing in your example is the blurring of the lines between entertainment and politics. It's been happening in all sorts of ways possible in the U.S. since print. Some people start out trying to make a buck or two disguising entertainment as news. It's really not much different from professional wrestling. The problem with pro wrestling is that sometimes the audience forgets it fake and gets too charged up about the bad guy. Pretty much the same thing, except changing the channel is more difficult process.
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And with modern medical capabilities, a homosexual couple is as capable of having children as a heterosexual couple, so again I ask, What is the difference?
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Sure, happens quite often nowadays. Lesbian couples can have sperm donated put into one of the women. One, or both, of a male couple could donate their sperm and have it placed into a woman willing to carry the baby. The sperm donor (in the case of the lesbians) is usually paid or the women go to a clinic if they want an anonymous donor. In the case of a woman carrying to term a baby for a male couple, the woman is usually also paid (it used to be around $10,000 but is probably more nowadays.) |
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I have several times now asked for greater respect to be shown to the opposing point of view. We have a lot of Democrats and Democrat-sympathisers talking here (myself included) and no Republicans. This post is a strong clue why. By all means cite the wrong doings and unfair tactics of the Republican Party and Fox News, using facts and hard evidence. But cut the crap, gentlemen. People are allowed to disagree with your views. You are not allowed to demonise them if and when they do.
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Is this what we're now seeing with Faux Noise? Yes, every once in a while they'll throw in something regarded as an indisputable fact but, way more often, they'll spew things which are totally false (and can be proven to be false). So maybe Faux Noise is equivalent. Just equivalent to the early 30s Propaganda Ministry, not the 40's Ministry. Quote:
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Yes, people are allowed to disagree. I have no problem with that. But people are not allowed their own facts. And the right, today, are relying on assumptions and opinion as "fact". Maybe that is the heart of the problem. |
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Comparing Fox News and the Republican Party that now is with Goebbels and the Nazis, on the strength of what you think that Fox News and the Republican movement could one day turn into is (excuse me for saying this) pretty paranoid. I see no legitimacy in judging someone or something now, today, on what you think they might turn into at some unspecified future time. Apart from anything else, you might not be correct, and they might turn out better than you expected. Besides, its a game others can play and do play, noteably Ms Coulter in her wild and extravagent panic mongering about how terrible America will turn out under an Obama presidency. Here (again, excuse me for saying this) I certainly do see equivalence beween her debating tactics and the debating tactics employed on this thread comparing Fox News with the Reichs Propaganda Ministry.
I am going to insist on this. We will treat Republican posters, if any are brave enough to appear after all this shit, with courtesy and restraint. We will engage constructively with their arguments, even if they are regurgitated Fox News fodder, and we will attack the arguments and not the person. In particular, there will be no more accusing people of being equivalent to Nazis. That is out of bounds.
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