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February 14th, 2013, 01:33 PM | #51 | |
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This is coming very close of my point of view of American politics. Another one.
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Speaking as someone who voted for Obama, I don't worship him and am not even a Democrat. I think he's one of the weaker presidents we've had. Unfortunately, the Republicans demonstrated to my satisfaction that they are a much worse alternative.
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Admitted, I've been very astonished too.
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The existence of other political parties can pose a challenge. Ralph Nader ran for the Green Party, supposedly only in non-swing states and to publicise the environmentalist case. But despite promising not to be a spoiler, he ran in Florida and polled over 97,000 votes. The story of the hanging chads is now part of our folklore; but Nader's contention that his 97,000 votes did not skew the poll against Al Gore and in favour of George W Bush seems awfully thin to me. I can't see many Republicans being swayed by the Green candidate. I think tree-hugging and saving the whales is more of a Democrat thing. No matter what your heart says, tactics enter into voting and you do need to think who it is you want to keep out and how your vote might let them in.
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February 14th, 2013, 02:51 PM | #56 | |
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Its not outright against the law for third parties to form (that would be too obvious) but I think a number of tax loopholes, funding clauses, regulations, etc. are in place to favor two parties. If your trying to form a legitimate third alternative here your fighting very much an uphill battle. I think the Democrats and the Republicans could quickly and easily find a common cause in uniting against a third party forming. There is way too much serious money at stake and no one needs some earnest young upstarts confusing the issues with yet a third viewpoint. Having a two party system with mostly diametrically opposed views allows everyone to quickly and easily find the bad guy, evil oppressor, fascist, socialist, communist, etc., etc., We're Americans. Were trained not to look at moral complexities very closely. |
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February 14th, 2013, 03:08 PM | #57 | |
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And the Republicans & Democrats will be horrified, if something is changing here - as it's working so well for them.
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The real question is who would be desirous of saving the Republican party?
OK, let's say the Republican party reforms itself to improve public relations and its public image. The Republican party is no longer the party of gun people, Christians, and the uneducated (you know who you are... you are the bachelor degrees who think wikipedia is good source material), then what? |
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February 18th, 2013, 07:24 AM | #60 |
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From an European point of view,
the Democrat Party appears mainly on the right as on the liberal side. Not to mention what's happened on the left. The Republicans would find themselves on the right spectrum to the fascist right wing. Yes, I being serious with my opinion about the fascist right wing. But mainly they are giving the impression of the far right. Sorry, the explanation would burst the limits of this post. That might be a due to the image of the US-society (I cannot know in all details), their problems in the last about 20 years. What I'm going to say: there are more marginal differences between those US parties, as the US citizens might discern - from an European point of view. Admitted, that some of the European Parties (German Social Democratic Party, English New Labor) followed (neo-) liberal trend too. EDIT: One has to difference the parties - from the actual presidential candidates.
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