Communism. Good or bad. What do you really know about Communism?

[Enrico32]

Originally Posted by Wendigo

That's a brilliant idea
I wish I had thought of it before I started working

Is it even theoretically possible or is the final owner The State?

Hereby finding that The State owns everything even in capitalism.

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by Enrico32

Is it even theoretically possible or is the final owner The State?

Hereby finding that The State owns everything even in capitalism.

That's a very interesting observation.
Watching from an another perspective, Capitalist stooges are exploited in a corrupted Communist system manipulated by illegitamed arrogant leaders.

In fact, being a REAL Communist is possible in a Capitalist system, it's only a state of mind.
But being a Capitalist in a REAL Communist system is impossible, because it's criminal to exploit other members of the perfect Community.


That's why Capitalist defenders claim that REAL Communism is totalitarian, because they can't manipulate and exploit weaker people anymore.

Capitalist defenders claim that they agree to be exploited and to exploit other people... as long as it is to their advantage.

Marx is unbeatable.
BTW thank you for your contribution, I'll read soon Saint Simon who inspired Karl Marx about the notion of the exploitation of the man by the man.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by Roubignol

In fact, being a REAL Communist is possible in a Capitalist system, it's only a state of mind.
But being a Capitalist in a REAL Communist system is impossible, because it's criminal to exploit other members of the perfect Community.

Really So what you're saying is you can be free to be a Commie in Manhattan But I can't be a Capitalist in Auroville

What's that word you use in capital letters a lot ....... Oh yeah , I know, it's, "FREEDOM"

You're biggest problem is so plain to see it's almost comical reading it all, you have this idea that people will want to live like you, think like you, act like you, eat like you and whatever ...... Guess what You didn't even want to debate how or where we are going to put my proposed power generator instead you go down a path of playing music at 2 am

Originally Posted by Roubignol

Marx is unbeatable.

Great track record of his theories so far

[crinolynne]

Originally Posted by Estreeter

What's that word you use in capital letters a lot ....... Oh yeah , I know, it's, "FREEDOM"

Capitalism is not freedom. The fact that you have to resort to patently jingoistic emotional propoganda rhetoric just pigeon holes your argument, and it ain't good.

Freedom is at risk from both communism and capitalist in equal measure.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by crinolynne

Capitalism is not freedom. The fact that you have to resort to patently jingoistic emotional propoganda rhetoric just pigeon holes your argument, and it ain't good.

Freedom is at risk from both communism and capitalist in equal measure.

Hey, you're back
Take your pick, live in dunno, say my country, Australia, at any stage during it's history or any current or former Commie state ...... then give a real answer

[bowlinggreen]

Originally Posted by crinolynne

Capitalism is not freedom. The fact that you have to resort to patently jingoistic emotional propoganda rhetoric just pigeon holes your argument, and it ain't good.

Freedom is at risk from both communism and capitalist in equal measure.

Freedom is always at risk whenever you have a bunch of people making rules and then assholes behind the scenes bending or breaking the rules in violation of the ethical expectations with which said rules were formulated in the first place, for their own enrichment or sense of self aggrandizement.

Which means no matter what system you live under, you are in danger of getting fucked, all of the time. It's part of the human condition.

[gigite]

In Comunism, you are the slave of the State. And State, don t give a s... about you.
If you are lazy,stupid and very naive , you buy their stories, better society - in fact poorer society, better life - in fact a slave life . I live in a former comunism country.
In Capitalism the chances are much better , if you are active and skilled.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by gigite

In Comunism, you are the slave of the State. And State, don t give a s... about you.
If you are lazy,stupid and very naive , you buy their stories, better society - in fact poorer society, better life - in fact a slave life . I live in a former comunism country.
In Capitalism the chances are much better , if you are active and skilled.

I feel sorry for you Mate, though it's good to hear from someone with first hand experience. If I may ask, which former Communist State did you live in ??? also and to be fair tell us your best and worst experience living under Commie rule

Originally Posted by gigite

In Capitalism the chances are much better , if you are active and skilled.

Take note of that xyzde

[Roubignol]

Originally Posted by gigite

In Comunism, you are the slave of the State. And State, don t give a s... about you.
If you are lazy,stupid and very naive , you buy their stories, better society - in fact poorer society, better life - in fact a slave life . I live in a former comunism country.
In Capitalism the chances are much better , if you are active and skilled.

Do you tell that because you defend greed, commodity fetishm and the exploitation of the man by the man?

Marx described all the problems that are threatening human manking of a horrible collapse. He sadly thought that people would be more clever... He was wrong on this aspect. Commodity fetishism is like a tumor in human brain.

Capitalist stooges will suffer far more than spiritual people not alienated by commodity fetishm when this collapse will become to be far more evident.
Because the global collapse has started be to evident 40 years ago for the wisest people and daily shows more obvious symptoms.

[Estreeter]

Originally Posted by Roubignol

Marx described all the problems that are threatening human manking of a horrible collapse. He sadly thought that people would be more clever... He was wrong on this aspect. Commodity fetishism is like a tumor in human brain.

I noticed something there , some would not have,

I asked gigite, a first time poster in this thread very fair question and that was to give a reply with his best and worst experiences living under Communism, both sides of the coin so to speak.

Your question to him was, well, very one sided and another attack on Capitalism

If you ask my humble opinion, which of us 2 is more open less one sided less greedy

Once again typical extreme left