Meltdown and Spectre - Page 2

**Baresfan** · January 12th, 2018, 09:03 PM

Know the difference To: 1.Preposition (used for expressing motion or direction toward a point, person, place, or thing approached and reached, as opposed to from): They came to the house. 2. (used for expressing direction or motion or direction toward something) in the direction of; toward: from north to south. Too: adverb: 1. To a higher degree than is desirable, permissible, or possible; excessively. 2. in addition. Two: number cardinal number: 1. Equivalent to the sum of one and one; one less than three.

**effCup** · January 13th, 2018, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welderman

Maybe, it's time you all switched too Windows 10..

Everyone in the same (leaky?) boat?

**buttsie** · January 13th, 2018, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welderman

Maybe, it's time you all switched too Windows 10..

A lot of scare mongering going on about the possibilities

INTEL CHIP FLAW: WHAT ANDROID, IPHONE, APPLE MAC AND WINDOWS USERS NEED TO DO TO STAY SAFE

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a8141421.html

**burpman** · January 13th, 2018, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttsie

You wont be needing that imac pro then

You've got to love MS

The one group who werent even affected by the chip debacle , those with AMD CPUs
get a blue screen of death invitation from MS via windows updates

They actually think their updates are a big help

History says their as good as malware all too often

Didn't get the BSOD myself but after patching it did trigger startup repair and rolled backed to a restore point. Utterly useless patch. Who is coding this garbage. It seems no one even tested it beyond the one odd ball AMD someone had over in the corner. Heck, I bet you they were brain dead enough to test this on a virtual machine and gave it flying colors.

**Welderman** · January 13th, 2018, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by effCup

Everyone in the same (leaky?) boat?

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttsie

A lot of scare mongering going on about the possibilities

INTEL CHIP FLAW: WHAT ANDROID, IPHONE, APPLE MAC AND WINDOWS USERS NEED TO DO TO STAY SAFE

]

At first I refused the free windows 10 upgrade while still running Windows 7.
Eventually I gave in, it was shite, so I deleted it, then I found no more W7 updates were available
So I spent £100 on my own copy.. So far so good.

**cicciobuki** · January 13th, 2018, 10:37 PM

i have mixed feelings about W10. Some parts are nice, but as an upgrade of W7 i have experienced it as a nightmare.

**deepsepia** · January 15th, 2018, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttsie

A lot of scare mongering going on about the possibilities

^^^ what he said.

First of all-- its a vulnerability that was discovered first by security researchers -- hat's off to them. So, so far as we know, there are no exploits in circulation, though no doubt bad actors are working on them as fast as they can.

Second, whatever performance hits are incurred by patches will be worst in the first patch, over time you'd expect subsequent iterations to be more efficient with less of a performance hit.

So in the grand scheme of things for a typical user this amounts to nothing more than "keep your system up to date and patched", which is what you want to do anyway.

**mucowag** · January 23rd, 2018, 10:14 PM

Now what?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42788169

**buttsie** · January 23rd, 2018, 11:01 PM

Ignore it unless your experiencing issues

I've not been rebooted even once

More likely Vef as a site might experience a slow down

Intel admits that its Meltdown/Spectre firmware patches trigger reboots on
Haswell and Broadwell computers - (Intel's 4th & 5th-gen CPUs)

If you own a PC with a Haswell or Broadwell processor (roughly 2014 to 2016 vintage), its strongly recommended that you refrain from installing the Meltdown/Spectre firmware updates, when they arrive.

12/1/2018
https://www.askwoody.com/2018/intel-...ell-computers/

Intel said its "initial analysis" for business cases such as running website servers showed a slowdown of 2%.

But it added that when it simulated a stock brokerage making transactions, the chips saw a 4% reduction in performance.

The most significant reduction in performance involved computer servers that store and retrieve large volumes of data. For those, the slowdown could be as severe as 25%.

18/1/2018 - Intel fix causes reboots and slowdowns
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42733032

**LiamA** · January 26th, 2018, 11:18 AM

Since this Meltdown stuff came out I've been noticing problems with Windows 7 and Webroot. Every time I turn my computer on it asks if Webroot is allowed to make changes. It's never done that until recently. Until I downloaded some updates the system wouldn't acknowledge that Webroot was running.

January 12th, 2018, 09:03 PM	#11
Baresfan Vintage Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,060 Thanks: 2,313 Thanked 14,179 Times in 1,013 Posts	Know the difference To: 1.Preposition (used for expressing motion or direction toward a point, person, place, or thing approached and reached, as opposed to from): They came to the house. 2. (used for expressing direction or motion or direction toward something) in the direction of; toward: from north to south. Too: adverb: 1. To a higher degree than is desirable, permissible, or possible; excessively. 2. in addition. Two: number cardinal number: 1. Equivalent to the sum of one and one; one less than three. Last edited by Baresfan; January 12th, 2018 at 09:09 PM..

January 23rd, 2018, 11:01 PM	#19
buttsie Porn Archeologist Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: earth Posts: 12,714 Thanks: 92,252 Thanked 241,274 Times in 12,746 Posts	Ignore it unless your experiencing issues I've not been rebooted even once More likely Vef as a site might experience a slow down Intel admits that its Meltdown/Spectre firmware patches trigger reboots on Haswell and Broadwell computers - (Intel's 4th & 5th-gen CPUs) If you own a PC with a Haswell or Broadwell processor (roughly 2014 to 2016 vintage), its strongly recommended that you refrain from installing the Meltdown/Spectre firmware updates, when they arrive. 12/1/2018 https://www.askwoody.com/2018/intel-...ell-computers/ Intel said its "initial analysis" for business cases such as running website servers showed a slowdown of 2%. But it added that when it simulated a stock brokerage making transactions, the chips saw a 4% reduction in performance. The most significant reduction in performance involved computer servers that store and retrieve large volumes of data. For those, the slowdown could be as severe as 25%. 18/1/2018 - Intel fix causes reboots and slowdowns http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42733032 Last edited by buttsie; January 23rd, 2018 at 11:09 PM.. Reason: adding

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January 13th, 2018, 10:37 PM	#16
cicciobuki supermoderateur Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Belgium Posts: 24,347 Thanks: 157,774 Thanked 320,979 Times in 24,261 Posts	i have mixed feelings about W10. Some parts are nice, but as an upgrade of W7 i have experienced it as a nightmare.

January 23rd, 2018, 10:14 PM	#18
mucowag Vintage Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,011 Thanks: 3,100 Thanked 22,182 Times in 983 Posts	Now what? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42788169

January 26th, 2018, 11:18 AM	#20
LiamA Vintage Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 785 Thanks: 20,295 Thanked 15,592 Times in 806 Posts	Since this Meltdown stuff came out I've been noticing problems with Windows 7 and Webroot. Every time I turn my computer on it asks if Webroot is allowed to make changes. It's never done that until recently. Until I downloaded some updates the system wouldn't acknowledge that Webroot was running.