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It's their culture. They sadly are assisted people. Bolivarianism wanted to get free of American Imperialism, but they started with a terrible lack of education. Today you put Venezuela in Chinese party hand and you will see if they would starve. Quote:
It's a story of pure Capitalist speculation with a currency trade at two different rates. Quote:
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He planned to develop agriculture, because he knew that the US government would try to create problems to free his country of American imperialism. So what happened ? Is it all the fault of Maduro or ... maybe of the local population too ? The sheet of Chavez was socially good. Even foreign Socio-Democrats political parties greeted him. |
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Venezuela has the LARGEST oil reserves in the world. LARGEST. They have more oil than Saudi Arabia! They have essentially the same size population as Saudi (roughly 32 million -- though at least 1 million people have fled Venezuela) Venezuela is the world's oil superpower -- the only reason you don't know it is because they've utterly wrecked their oil production. So you're simply wrong on all counts. For a nation of 30 million people, 300 Billion barrels of oil -- which which can be lifted at a profit of at least $10 Trillion -- that's the most obvious thing to do. I might add that no one has been doing much exploration in Venezuela in recent years, but its quite likely their reserves are even greater than that. Venezuela, if managed by a government that wasn't actively destroying the nation's wealth, would be rich, indeed it once was rich. Here's a bit of history-- back in the day, the Concorde used to fly to Caracas . . . Venezuela was the wealthiest nation in South America, corrupt and with problems to be sure-- but getting steadily richer. They were buying oil refining assets around the world, with a plan to dominate the entire value creation from the well to the fuel pump. And know they've got an impoverished nation that can't feed itself, and a national oil company that can't run existing wells, much less drill new ones. |
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August 21st, 2018, 01:15 PM | #1904 | |
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Population only 2 weeks ago topped 25 million but we have the most and amongst the best mineral deposits, a lot of natural gas, could be the most but not sure, coal is more than plentiful, and we've never been fucked, why I hear the normal members ask, simple, embrace capitalism No hunger here, poverty would be self inflicted even though there are what one would call poor. A shining example of capitalism at work, we've also had no recession in over 25 years, think about that, even during the GFC in 2008 we escaped unscathed even though it did mean our budget surplus was very diminished. But wait, I can see the left (far left) members here think we're evil and blah blah blah
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August 21st, 2018, 01:31 PM | #1905 | |
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Oz has markets, and its got a competent State sector. Aussies in the US look at a US doctor's bill as insanity. The thing about Australia is that its "quietly competent". Australians get stuff done without making a big deal out of it . . . "you can do shit, if you just shut up and do it" seems to be the national motto. The crazy thing is that you can have all these things. You can have markets and social welfare. You can have national health insurance. You can give everyone a good quality public education. This stuff should be easy for a nation as [potentially] rich as Venezuela. Instead, they drop a rock on their nuts and wonder "who's kicking me" Last edited by deepsepia; August 21st, 2018 at 01:49 PM.. |
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Even though he is, thank God, dead any leader of any political stance who in modern times wears shit like this you can bet your balls they are full of shit I might sound mean but I have zero sympathy for those suffering who voted that party in, I do feel for those who voted against.
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August 21st, 2018, 02:08 PM | #1907 | |
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There are some that have walked all the way to Argentina -- that's thousands of miles. Here's the incredible thing: Argentina is another should-be-rich but screwed it up with populist politics-- but Argentina proves that when you have a very good hand in life, you can do a lot of stupid shit and survive it. It takes a Chavez and Maduro to really sink the ship Garden variety stupidities, like Argentina's, won't keep a rich nation down . .. |
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I reckon they should walk to the Pacific, then raft across it, then half way across the Indian Ocean and settle in a paradise, Auroville
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Your arguments have nothing to do with Communism or planned economy. It's a story of pure Capitalist speculation with a currency trade at two different rates. Quote:
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Consequently their oil production has fallen by %50. It really is that simple. If Venezuela were pumping as much as it did five years ago, they'd have plenty of money. But because they've wrecked the national oil company that paid all the bills, so now they can't pump oil and have no money to buy food. Venezuela Oil Production 2013-2018 Last edited by deepsepia; August 21st, 2018 at 07:31 PM.. |
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