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November 19th, 2008, 11:37 PM | #11 | |
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dubsalute, it sounds like SCART connectors may eliminate the issues I have, but bluenoise was correct in suggesting I don't have SCART enabled kit. Here in Australia we use COAX (yellow white red) cables to hook up VCRs to other stuff. Your information about the discs is really useful! You may have saved me a lot of money (I tend to buy in bulk). zorin, spoken like a true audiophile! I have IXOS and TITAN interconnects going to my Audiolab Amp that feeds my B&W speakers.... maybe I should look at the rubbish I'm using to hook up the VCR? Back when, (egad! my 15 yo VCR is almost 'legal'!) I was too poor, and the technology didn't warrant it -I've never thought to upgrade, until now. Thanks for the additional video capture info as well. gs1, you hit the nail on the head. That is exactly what I was looking for. (It frees up my Vidcam so I can make home movies with the GF -that's her arse in my avatar!) I've also appreciated the other side-discussion that developed over which formats to work with, and the editiing/polishing info. As a footnote, it looks like the next generation of interconnectivity (in my part of the world) will be HDMI, I'm also hearing promising things about blu-ray storage capacity... Anyway, My first uploads (I'm a bit too busy at the mo' but hope to start these before Xmas) will be my present under the wood, er, tree, to you all. Thanks! Last edited by dhream; November 20th, 2008 at 12:35 AM.. Reason: info added |
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November 20th, 2008, 03:24 AM | #12 | |
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November 20th, 2008, 10:04 AM | #13 | |
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Personally I prefer to adjust the picture quality in post-production i.e. not during capture but there are times when it is useful to beef things up a bit from the start. Don't know if all capture cards have drivers that allow you to do all this. I've tried an external usb capture device recently and wasn't impressed with the quality delivered. It came nowhere near the quality of my aging pinnacle card and the driver basically had the same settings you mentioned. Z |
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There's a good explanation here : http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/capture/intro.htm There's also some capture card info there as well. Since dhream wants to capture his aging vhs tapes I'm assuming he'll have to do some editing that's why I mentioned it. I recommend it based on my own experience and do not intend to start an argument about which format is best and should thus always be used. Basically everyone has to determine what works best for them and use that. Z |
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November 25th, 2008, 04:50 AM | #15 |
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You have mis-understood me!
mpeg & avi are as easy to edit a each other, with mpeg you can edit in videoredo and direct stream copy with avi you can edit in virtualdub and direct stream copy so they are easy to edit as each other HOWEVER mpeg is interlaced (made up of two fields odd & even) this is how analouge TV/digital TV and DVD`s & VHS tapes are.they are interlaced go and read this,you might learn something http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlace avi is not interlaced (it uses progressive scan) and as such recording to avi will mean de-interlacing will take place,either the two fileds will be blended (best option) or 1 feild will be dropped,meaning 50% of the data in each frame will be lost,meaning lower quality!! Also recording to avi means the encodng is done on the fly and this produces poor results! due to the fact de-interlacing is taking place and also compression is being aplied I certainly am not looking to argue/cause a conflict,Im simply trying to help dhream get the best results from his transferal of VHS to digital, He would be better off recording to mpeg,then either converting that to avi and editing it,or simply editing the mpeg then converting to avi, this will ensure the best quality possible (coupled with a 2 pass encode) Read that article on Wiki regarding interlacing and hopefully you`ll understand where i am coming from by reccomending recording to mpeg over avi
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AVI is a container format and as such the video data in it can be compressed in any way depending on the codec used. This can be either interlaced or de-interlaced. Capture cards which capture to AVI will do so using the M-JPEG format which most certainly interlaced (both fields are captured) so no loss of quality there. May I suggest in turn you read the wiki entries on both avi and motion jpeg ? |
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AVI is only a container, which can accommodate any number of codec monstrosities. If you have a digital tape source, you're best off importing as an uncompressed/raw* AVI into Adobe Premiere, or your chosen editor. Do all the work there. mpeg2, ideally, should only be the final, resulting file before writing to dvd.
VHS>DVD recorder results in an mpeg2 compliant *.vob or *.vro file on disc. I use this simple program to tidy things up. *Takes a lot of HD space. Last edited by Sid ney; November 26th, 2008 at 06:09 AM.. |
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I have ton of stuff that I bought on VHS, and recorded to DVD in 4 hour mode. It looked good to me in that form, but if I rip it and convert it, will it be worth the time? There is some of my bad editing, (pause one, pause the other), to lose the guys cumshot face, but I haven't tried one yet. I have enough real DVD's to keep me busy for awhile, but if anyone knows how my other stuff may turn out, let me know.
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Thank you for bringing this to my attention and i apologise for my mis-informed post. As the "kids" would say.. "i got served"
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then there won't be any improvement in the resulting image. Re-capturing the original VHS tape with the aid of a capture card might give better results but will involve more work. It is not a simple "one click does the trick" job. With a capture card you can adjust the compression settings to get the best capture result. But this will only give you a digital copy of the VHS version. To improve the image will require editing and tinkering with filter settings using a variety of filters. Whether the time required for doing all this is worth it, is up to you to decide. If you still have the titles of your VHS stuff, it might be easier to first find out whether there's a good digital copy of it already floating around the net somewhere and simply download that. Z |
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