the full bush and porn - Page 2

**charliels531** · September 3rd, 2013, 08:51 AM

I don't know whether it has any bearing, but in the U.S. there was a ban on sending photos which included pubic hair thru the mail. Since most magazines relied on a second-class mailing permit, they complied, which was why Playboy only featured shaved or airbrushed models from 1953 when the magazine started, up into the 1960s. In 1962 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Manual v. Day, 370 U.S. 478, that the postal regulation did not meet the high bar required to establish obscenity. By that time at least in the U.S. the consumers of porn had developed a taste for bald pussy.

bigggjake · September 17th, 2013, 02:03 PM

After a hot night!

de-vires · September 18th, 2013, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bigggjake

After a hot night!

Who is she ? I have seen quite a few image of her, she really should have her own post/thread.
Thank you anyway for this image

**pwd_budlk_street** · September 26th, 2013, 11:29 AM

I have a beard and like bush but don't understand your argument. I like pubic hair on women because I grew up with it in the 80s. Playboy women were hot and naturally pleasing. In college, during mid-90s, all women had full triangles..but then a few years later it was all gone. I am certainly not one of those don't shave your legs or pits type. Trimming is fine but nothing is far weirder regardless of what mainstream says. I gave up caring about mainstream years ago. That you are even here shows you are not mainstream.

brack39 · January 15th, 2014, 11:08 AM

The esthetic arguments about fashion are endless, bushy or not, pins, staples, rings and tattoos are all personal preferences. So a few hairy ones for your enjoyment.
Brack39

imp44791 · January 26th, 2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KUTProductions

I trust all of you "Shaving is evil" types have full beards then?

I trust all you "shaving is good" types shave your balls too?

I find that all this discussion about hair down there being hygienic/unhygienic, smelly/non-smelly, good/bad for cunnilingus is beside the point. It's a fashion, and like all fashions it comes and goes. It didn't use to be a big deal before nudity and semi-nudity (e.g. bikinis) became commonplace, and therefore women didn't bother with the irritation (often pain), hassle and expense of waxings/shaving/laser/electrolysis/all that crap before then. Private parts were private and not visible other to a select few. Once the fashion started, a whole big whopping cosmetics industry arose to cater to women's hair removal "needs".

I already see some backlash in fashion setting places (including porn of course). An increasing number of porn models are sporting increasing volumes of bush, and even Cameron Diaz is going around extolling the virtues of bush. I personally foresee that as nudity becomes even more commonplace, the fashion will swing back to bush. It just looks nicer: it frames the Root of All Evil beautifully, draws the eye to it, gives great contrast, transmit an image of softness and warmth that any man who has actually had sex with a woman will immediately relate to in a Pavlovian sense. And there are no shaving pimples/stubble/five o'clock shadow/reddening of the skin. Perhaps the cosmetic industry will then focus on making nether coiffure products rather than wax and razors.

Imp.

Alvin Lucifer · January 26th, 2014, 05:15 PM

A theory I've considered is private parts versus public parts. Some of you have already mentioned swimwear and undergarments. As apparel got narrower, the razors came out. I think that's part of it.

There is another factor. In days of old, if you were a good girl, the only people who would see your bare pudenda were your husband and your doctor. Nobody even talked about "down there" because it was too embarrassing.

The nudists and the hippies went commando, but in these cultures, it was righteous to be "natural," so they let the garden grow.

Prior to the 1990s, the only women who did the full shaving and waxing were in the adult entertainment industries. Strippers did it when all-nude dancing became mainstream in the eighties. As far back as Linda Lovelace, porn stars did it for an exotic look. Then it become more and more common in porn in the eighties.

Stripper culture became mainstream in the late eighties/early nineties. Before then, only strippers wore g-strings (aka "thongs"). Twenty years later, thongs are basic undies.

I hesitate to say women are more or less promiscuous today than in earlier decades. However, it does seem that pubic styling is accepted among the general cosmetic maintenance of women's appearances. You can get a Brazilian wax in any town now. Not so twenty or thirty yeas ago.

The hygiene argument is overblown for reasons others have stated. I remember a report last year that said pubic lice were less common owing to diminished pubic hair. There might be a correlation, but I tend to doubt the whole story. Men shave their junk far less frequently. Furthermore, unless you've got a scorched earth treatment of all your nether regions, those little buggers can still find a home. I remember crabs going around when I was a kid, and people tried to shave it to stave them off. It didn't work!

**pwd_budlk_street** · January 27th, 2014, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imp44791

I trust all you "shaving is good" types shave your balls too?

I already see some backlash in fashion setting places (including porn of course). An increasing number of porn models are sporting increasing volumes of bush, and even Cameron Diaz is going around extolling the virtues of bush. I personally foresee that as nudity becomes even more commonplace, the fashion will swing back to bush.

It is definitely coming back. I think women are just plain fed up with the hassle. I went to college in mid-90s and women all sported huge bushes. I loved pulling off a girls pants and seeing her garden. I remember one girl had a pure blonde muff. It was mesmerizing. I don't recall any guy ever complaining about pubes. It was expected and non-issue. Fast forward ten years and girls would apologize for not being fully waxed. A mood breaker really as girl became self-conscious. Anyway, as you mentioned, Cameron Diaz supports bush and there are tons of articles backing her stance. Thank god..way overdue. I wonder if today's 20 year old spoiled boy man can deal with some fur.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/12/9-si...k-in-2013.html

http://www.thefrisky.com/2013-11-25/...heer-laziness/

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11...n_4302075.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...h-8964517.html

http://www.ivillage.com/pubic-hair-t...yle/5-a-553694

Some girls are taking it back with vengeance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbg4vzPL7S8

This girl is extreme with her bush growing. Nice bod though. Some pretty gross period pictures. (warning)

http://baretobush.tumblr.com/

neil w · April 4th, 2014, 04:13 PM

Up until 1970-ish, pubic hair was deemed to be obscene (it is, after all, a secondary sexual characteristic, and one of the reasons we have evolved to have pubic hair is because it is a sexual attractor), hence shaving and airbrushing in porn - all the porn when I were a lad made the ladies look as if they had been vulcanised up the front.

Next we have the sensible relaxation of restrictions, and an all too brief era of naturalness during which a shaved pubic area was regarded as a fetish.

Then we have the gradual raising of swimsuit leglines and lowering of bikini bottom waists, necessitating the trimming of pubic hair in order to remain covered up, and this has evolved - with, perhaps, some help from vested interests in the "personal grooming" industry to where we are today, with young women shaved, plucked, waxed and otherwise depilated to within an inch of their lives.

The thing I object to most is the fact that, care of the porn industry, so many young people now see this as the norm that they find a bush unattractive, which is the main element in the current status quo being here to stay for the forseeable future, in my view. Unfortunately.

And it really pisses me off. No pubes during my adolescence, 15 short years of bush, then 30-odd years (so far) of bald pudenda.

Oh, and the hygiene "issue" is a complete red herring - it's all down to cleanliness. If you don't wash, your bald fanny will be unhygienic. If you do wash, your hairy fanny will be hygienic. Fairly straightforward I would have thought. It's not like Edward Lear's bloke with a beard.

bronko23 · May 7th, 2014, 06:45 AM

I wonder about another aspect of shaving -- it allows women to pretend they are "natural" blondes much easier. Removal of the evidence, since pubic hair is, or was, difficult to dye safely, unlike hair on the head. Not that all true blondes have a matching muff, but the old drapes/carpet gag has lost much of its bite since the razors came out (put them away, ladies, please!)

January 26th, 2014, 05:15 PM	#17
Alvin Lucifer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pioneer Valley, Massachusetts Posts: 373 Thanks: 8,750 Thanked 3,055 Times in 364 Posts	A theory I've considered is private parts versus public parts. Some of you have already mentioned swimwear and undergarments. As apparel got narrower, the razors came out. I think that's part of it. There is another factor. In days of old, if you were a good girl, the only people who would see your bare pudenda were your husband and your doctor. Nobody even talked about "down there" because it was too embarrassing. The nudists and the hippies went commando, but in these cultures, it was righteous to be "natural," so they let the garden grow. Prior to the 1990s, the only women who did the full shaving and waxing were in the adult entertainment industries. Strippers did it when all-nude dancing became mainstream in the eighties. As far back as Linda Lovelace, porn stars did it for an exotic look. Then it become more and more common in porn in the eighties. Stripper culture became mainstream in the late eighties/early nineties. Before then, only strippers wore g-strings (aka "thongs"). Twenty years later, thongs are basic undies. I hesitate to say women are more or less promiscuous today than in earlier decades. However, it does seem that pubic styling is accepted among the general cosmetic maintenance of women's appearances. You can get a Brazilian wax in any town now. Not so twenty or thirty yeas ago. The hygiene argument is overblown for reasons others have stated. I remember a report last year that said pubic lice were less common owing to diminished pubic hair. There might be a correlation, but I tend to doubt the whole story. Men shave their junk far less frequently. Furthermore, unless you've got a scorched earth treatment of all your nether regions, those little buggers can still find a home. I remember crabs going around when I was a kid, and people tried to shave it to stave them off. It didn't work! __________________ I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll have a look...

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September 3rd, 2013, 08:51 AM	#11
charliels531 Vintage Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 4,909 Thanks: 42,425 Thanked 62,691 Times in 4,879 Posts	I don't know whether it has any bearing, but in the U.S. there was a ban on sending photos which included pubic hair thru the mail. Since most magazines relied on a second-class mailing permit, they complied, which was why Playboy only featured shaved or airbrushed models from 1953 when the magazine started, up into the 1960s. In 1962 the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Manual v. Day, 370 U.S. 478, that the postal regulation did not meet the high bar required to establish obscenity. By that time at least in the U.S. the consumers of porn had developed a taste for bald pussy.

September 17th, 2013, 02:03 PM	#12
bigggjake Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 35 Thanks: 28 Thanked 2,528 Times in 47 Posts	After a hot night!

September 26th, 2013, 11:29 AM	#14
pwd_budlk_street Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 540 Thanks: 154 Thanked 9,205 Times in 519 Posts	I have a beard and like bush but don't understand your argument. I like pubic hair on women because I grew up with it in the 80s. Playboy women were hot and naturally pleasing. In college, during mid-90s, all women had full triangles..but then a few years later it was all gone. I am certainly not one of those don't shave your legs or pits type. Trimming is fine but nothing is far weirder regardless of what mainstream says. I gave up caring about mainstream years ago. That you are even here shows you are not mainstream.

January 15th, 2014, 11:08 AM	#15
brack39 Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 49 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1,277 Times in 42 Posts	The esthetic arguments about fashion are endless, bushy or not, pins, staples, rings and tattoos are all personal preferences. So a few hairy ones for your enjoyment. Brack39

April 4th, 2014, 04:13 PM	#19
neil w Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 67 Thanks: 5 Thanked 692 Times in 62 Posts	Up until 1970-ish, pubic hair was deemed to be obscene (it is, after all, a secondary sexual characteristic, and one of the reasons we have evolved to have pubic hair is because it is a sexual attractor), hence shaving and airbrushing in porn - all the porn when I were a lad made the ladies look as if they had been vulcanised up the front. Next we have the sensible relaxation of restrictions, and an all too brief era of naturalness during which a shaved pubic area was regarded as a fetish. Then we have the gradual raising of swimsuit leglines and lowering of bikini bottom waists, necessitating the trimming of pubic hair in order to remain covered up, and this has evolved - with, perhaps, some help from vested interests in the "personal grooming" industry to where we are today, with young women shaved, plucked, waxed and otherwise depilated to within an inch of their lives. The thing I object to most is the fact that, care of the porn industry, so many young people now see this as the norm that they find a bush unattractive, which is the main element in the current status quo being here to stay for the forseeable future, in my view. Unfortunately. And it really pisses me off. No pubes during my adolescence, 15 short years of bush, then 30-odd years (so far) of bald pudenda. Oh, and the hygiene "issue" is a complete red herring - it's all down to cleanliness. If you don't wash, your bald fanny will be unhygienic. If you do wash, your hairy fanny will be hygienic. Fairly straightforward I would have thought. It's not like Edward Lear's bloke with a beard.

May 7th, 2014, 06:45 AM	#20
bronko23 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 27 Thanks: 14,866 Thanked 213 Times in 22 Posts	I wonder about another aspect of shaving -- it allows women to pretend they are "natural" blondes much easier. Removal of the evidence, since pubic hair is, or was, difficult to dye safely, unlike hair on the head. Not that all true blondes have a matching muff, but the old drapes/carpet gag has lost much of its bite since the razors came out (put them away, ladies, please!)