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**electile disfunction** · December 14th, 2012, 04:36 PM

I think I found part of a solution to the "search term being too short" problem at VEF--but I can't seem to recreate the problem today.

I will tell everyone anyway in case it helps someone in the future or is a work-around that someone might wish to program into a search engine.

When I need to seach for a person or title that has a short name, it seems that if I 'add' something (with a "+" sign) to the search term then the search engine does not reject the term even if it still remains too short.

Examples: Pretend I need to find a model named "Iam Pi" or a movie named "Bob" which are too short for the search engine.

(Up until a short time ago) "Iam", "Pi", "Iam Pi", and "Bob" would normally be rejected by the search engine, however if I used a '+' phrase like "Iam+Pi" or "Bob+clip"--without the quotes--then the search engine would return correct results.

I hope that helps people in some way,
e.d.

**anotherl33cher** · August 9th, 2013, 10:46 PM

Thanks for the tips, I knew that the regular operators AND OR NOT aren't working, but I didn't know about # * + - being there.
Sadly, it seems they're useful only for whole words, so you can't use them as a workaround for searching phrases ( Spare*The*Rod won't work), which is a major drawback of the forum search engine (problem how to find certain titles/names).

**hos** · August 10th, 2013, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anotherl33cher

Sadly, it seems they're useful only for whole words, so you can't use them as a workaround for searching phrases ( Spare*The*Rod won't work), which is a major drawback of the forum search engine (problem how to find certain titles/names).

you can add the entire phrase to the search box, common words were excluded but with rather uncommon words like "spare" and "rod" in the same search request you shouldn't have problems with too many results.

keep in mind that the default search delivers posts (or threads) having all words included in either one message or post title (means: more keywords same time = less results)

**effCup** · August 19th, 2013, 03:56 PM

1) A search-the-forum puzzle. There's a thread in softcore models with the title: "Ryan Matthews, PotM Aug. 1991" (no quotes). If I search for "Ryan Matthews" or "Ryan+Matthews", restricting to the softcore models section & search titles only, I get no result. If I search for "Ryan" then it's among the results. If I search for "Matthews" I get results but not the target thread.

I tried appending a comma after "Matthews" but no improvement.

I had to double-check, but there are 2 t's in this spelling of Matthews, i.e. that's what the thread has, so I don't think it's just my typo.

Interestingly (i.e. once again unexpectedly) searching for "Mathews" found two threads: "Penny Mathews (Mayfair)" (logical) & "Jayne Mattews" [sic] (unexpected), but the answer for the latter is that the title of the second post in that thread uses the spelling "Jane Mathews", so there's the match found. Unfortunately, that still doesn't explain the earlier missed match from the "Ryan Matthews, PotM Aug. 1991" thread, as the first post's title is the corresponding "Ryan Matthews, PotM Aug. 1991".

Is there perhaps an invisible special character in the thread &/or first post title that's causing this problem? Yeah, OK, I'm clutching at straws.

Any other explanation(s) for this rather unexpected behaviour?

**retroanalyst** · August 19th, 2013, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by effCup

1) A search-the-forum puzzle. There's a thread in softcore models with the title: "Ryan Matthews, PotM Aug. 1991" (no quotes). If I search for "Ryan Matthews" or "Ryan+Matthews", restricting to the softcore models section & search titles only, I get no result. If I search for "Ryan" then it's among the results. If I search for "Matthews" I get results but not the target thread.

Any other explanation(s) for this rather unexpected behaviour?

Looks like this post or at least its title is not in the search index for some reason. We had a similar problem with the Mystery Box recently.

**rotobott** · August 19th, 2013, 04:52 PM

Weird, you can find it with a search entire posts query, but there is definitely something wrong with the title, even a potm search fails to find it

http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sea...chid=132170557

**effCup** · August 19th, 2013, 05:00 PM

Should I ask one of the software models mods to check it, or just wait for a mod to read this thread?

**MrInBetween** · August 19th, 2013, 05:31 PM

It definitely isn't the comma in the title that's causing the problem as I just created a thread in the Test Forum with 'MrInBetween,' in the title, and I can find that by searching for 'MrInBetween' - and there's what rotobott said too, of course.

**hos** · August 19th, 2013, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by effCup

software models

gnihihi.

they all have fake tits. no help.

__
the mods can't help you on this issue either, at least not in general. it's a vbulletin issue. i think it should be possible to fix such problems when they appear with single threads / post (by recreating the item), but the search engine stays unperfect by its nature.

**Pepper II** · August 27th, 2013, 11:12 PM

effCup: I had no problem searching Softcore Models Ryan Matthews (plain) with no " or + or anything else. I think the special characters is what is causing your problem.

December 14th, 2012, 04:36 PM	#21
electile disfunction Vintage Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somewhere flat, that's either hot, cold, or windy ... Canada? Posts: 1,966 Thanks: 42,100 Thanked 21,351 Times in 1,903 Posts	I found part of one solution I think I found part of a solution to the "search term being too short" problem at VEF--but I can't seem to recreate the problem today. I will tell everyone anyway in case it helps someone in the future or is a work-around that someone might wish to program into a search engine. When I need to seach for a person or title that has a short name, it seems that if I 'add' something (with a "+" sign) to the search term then the search engine does not reject the term even if it still remains too short. Examples: Pretend I need to find a model named "Iam Pi" or a movie named "Bob" which are too short for the search engine. (Up until a short time ago) "Iam", "Pi", "Iam Pi", and "Bob" would normally be rejected by the search engine, however if I used a '+' phrase like "Iam+Pi" or "Bob+clip"--without the quotes--then the search engine would return correct results. I hope that helps people in some way, e.d.

August 19th, 2013, 03:56 PM	#24
effCup *Vintage Idiot* Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: History Posts: 22,127 Thanks: 226,682 Thanked 356,622 Times in 21,622 Posts	1) A search-the-forum puzzle. There's a thread in softcore models with the title: "Ryan Matthews, PotM Aug. 1991" (no quotes). If I search for "Ryan Matthews" or "Ryan+Matthews", restricting to the softcore models section & search titles only, I get no result. If I search for "Ryan" then it's among the results. If I search for "Matthews" I get results but not the target thread. I tried appending a comma after "Matthews" but no improvement. I had to double-check, but there are 2 t's in this spelling of Matthews, i.e. that's what the thread has, so I don't think it's just my typo. Interestingly (i.e. once again unexpectedly) searching for "Mathews" found two threads: "Penny Mathews (Mayfair)" (logical) & "Jayne Mattews" [sic] (unexpected), but the answer for the latter is that the title of the second post in that thread uses the spelling "Jane Mathews", so there's the match found. Unfortunately, that still doesn't explain the earlier missed match from the "Ryan Matthews, PotM Aug. 1991" thread, as the first post's title is the corresponding "Ryan Matthews, PotM Aug. 1991". Is there perhaps an invisible special character in the thread &/or first post title that's causing this problem? Yeah, OK, I'm clutching at straws. Any other explanation(s) for this rather unexpected behaviour? Last edited by exfarmer; August 20th, 2013 at 10:17 PM.. Reason: text adjustment

August 19th, 2013, 05:31 PM	#28
MrInBetween R.I.P. Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Gone But Not Forgotten Posts: 3,934 Thanks: 51,364 Thanked 48,451 Times in 3,898 Posts	It definitely isn't the comma in the title that's causing the problem as I just created a thread in the Test Forum with 'MrInBetween,' in the title, and I can find that by searching for 'MrInBetween' - and there's what rotobott said too, of course. __________________ I'm sorry Gentlemen, that's all the lipstick around the nipple we have time for To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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August 9th, 2013, 10:46 PM	#22
anotherl33cher Vintage Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 580 Thanks: 8,127 Thanked 7,769 Times in 537 Posts	Thanks for the tips, I knew that the regular operators AND OR NOT aren't working, but I didn't know about # + -* being there. Sadly, it seems they're useful only for whole words, so you can't use them as a workaround for searching phrases ( SpareTheRod won't work), which is a major drawback of the forum search engine (problem how to find certain titles/names).

August 19th, 2013, 04:52 PM	#26
rotobott Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 32,100 Thanks: 174,744 Thanked 634,434 Times in 31,421 Posts	Weird, you can find it with a search entire posts query, but there is definitely something wrong with the title, even a potm search fails to find it http://vintage-erotica-forum.com/sea...chid=132170557

August 19th, 2013, 05:00 PM	#27
effCup *Vintage Idiot* Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: History Posts: 22,127 Thanks: 226,682 Thanked 356,622 Times in 21,622 Posts	Should I ask one of the software models mods to check it, or just wait for a mod to read this thread?

August 27th, 2013, 11:12 PM	#30
Pepper II Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 7,852 Thanks: 163,883 Thanked 119,234 Times in 7,641 Posts	effCup: I had no problem searching Softcore Models Ryan Matthews (plain) with no " or + or anything else. I think the special characters is what is causing your problem.