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Old February 19th, 2007, 06:41 PM   #1
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Default The Difference Between Todays Movies and Vintage Movies

As you know almost all of models playing in vintage movies have hairy pussy, but todays porn stars usually prefer shaved pussy.
What is the reason? Can we explain this difference with 'fashion'? Or the reason is improvements on shaving technology?
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Since there is a more liberal attitude to intimate parts of the body today, the shaving industry can talk about pubic hair. And for the sake of making more money this industry made most people believe pubic hair is dirty.

In fact, if there wasn't a hair care industry, the shaving industry would try to convince us that hair on our shull is dirty. Just like they did with armpit hair, leg hair, beards, etc. And the only reason we still have hair on our heads is because if the shaving intusrty would start a campagn against it, the hair care industry would counter attack. But there's no industry to defend pubic hair.

Sad, I know. For there's nothing as beautiful as a nice bush of pubic hair.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 07:16 PM   #3
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Since there is a more liberal attitude to intimate parts of the body today, the shaving industry can talk about pubic hair. And for the sake of making more money this industry made most people believe pubic hair is dirty.

In fact, if there wasn't a hair care industry, the shaving industry would try to convince us that hair on our shull is dirty. Just like they did with armpit hair, leg hair, beards, etc. And the only reason we still have hair on our heads is because if the shaving intusrty would start a campagn against it, the hair care industry would counter attack. But there's no industry to defend pubic hair.

Sad, I know. For there's nothing as beautiful as a nice bush of pubic hair.
You mean capitalism can even effect pussy hair style of pornstars? It sounds interesting.
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every industry is basically over. Tv, Sports, News, Porn etc.
Capitalism turned Fascist. all of the suits making decisions with the corporations.
what a bunch of Bozo-jerk-offs.
they even managed to screw up the Porn Industry. who would have ever thought this?
pretty sad when most guys under 35 are scared to death to look at a hairy bush, due to being brainwashed.
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every industry is basically over. Tv, Sports, News, Porn etc.
Capitalism turned Fascist. all of the suits making decisions with the corporations.
what a bunch of Bozo-jerk-offs.
they even managed to screw up the Porn Industry. who would have ever thought this?
pretty sad when most guys under 35 are scared to death to look at a hairy bush, due to being brainwashed.
Good point, the last part. Now it's called scary hairy and usually listed as a 'fetish'. In the past, shaven was a novelty.As always, the commercial sites have no imagination and a link page will usually direct you to something that looks like a gorilla.

I'm the first to believe in a government or business conspiacy but there's other reasons with a lot due to the ever more brief bikini and what became known as the bikini line. By the early to mid 90s, just before most ppl were on the net, women were shaving so much off at each side that only a square middle piece was left. The porn stars were no exception and soon there was just a small patch of hair left and the beautiful triangle of lust was gone.

Life imitates art and with so many younger couples on the internet and women seeing porn like never before they soon copied. Check out all the amateur sites and forums and nearly all are shaved, not just in the west either. And most amateur pron ends with the guy jerking for the essential facial, which is just as routine as the shaven twat (which can no longer be called a pussy). I even read that younger guys in their teens or early 20s want to cum in their girlfriends' faces because this is what they see on the web.

As far as I'm concerned most pron today is boring, predictable and plain stupid but there's also a real undercurrent of deliberately humiliating the female. There's even a site called 'pinkeye'. So the only stuff with any interest is the amateur which is at least real.
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Dear LoveLover,
An excellent observation, and well put. I've written in at least one comment on this topic
hoping to get something going, but nobody seems to care.
Perhaps when the economy crashes, some time next year, women won't have so much
disposable income for disposable razors, and things'll start to get back to normal.
But I'm not counting on it. People would rather starve than feel unattractive.
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Nothing to with it but...Wadpro, how can you have -11 in Karma ? It seem's after your pretty bad begining you'll became a fair member ? What's wrong ?
Well, I had -1 karma 5 minutes after posting my first post with rare Patricia Rhomberg clip. I think that some people just enjoy it to give bad karma and it takes some time to meet more good ones who appreciate contributers by at least a click - thats my theory so far
(this happened to me under other account ptx3, to which I have lost password during major password losing event )

It's interesting thread, btw.
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This may be a little long winded, but hopefully puts one person's perspective on many of the fashions seen in the world of pornography.

As one of a certain age, I remember the 60's and 70's porn when they happened (and when we could see them). In the UK in the 1950's, showing pubic hair in photographs was considered obscene (there was no nudity allowed at all on mainstream cinema), so all nude glamour pictures had retouched patches or, the models shaved, hiding the vagina (Harrison Marks was THE exponent of this type of pic). When things liberalised in the late 60's, showing pubic hair was new and exciting.

Following this, the rather sad 'open crotch shot' became common - via the european liberalisation of hardcore pornography - typically Mary Millington type pictures. Illegal hardcore smuggled into the UK ballooned when Video Recorders became widely available, and showed largely US material (presumably because they were in English).

As has been rightly stated above, a shaved pubis was very unusual, but the trend to "Follow the Fashion" was already established. Look at any early Aunt Peg or Deirdre Cousteau video, and every female model has a silk scarf around her neck! By the same token, anal penetration was rare and very, very daring.

So the fashion was also for the ejaculation to be visible - the "money Shot", this was on early B&W films anywhere outside of the female, so long as it could be seen. This became a facial where oral sex to orgasm became a fashion. Mostmen of my acquaintance wanted the oral to be just that. Very few women could ever, ever, really enjoy having her face ejaculated upon.

Equally, some beautiful women were deluded by the obsession - that seems to be largely US originated - for huge breasts (US Mainstream cinema, Jayne Mansfield etc) and opted for implants as they became available. I do not know any man who finds these plastic breasts, such as the extreme manifestation of Lola Ferrari's, other than freakish turn-offs. However, the mandarins of US porn seemed to dictate that this was the way to go.

Shaving did seem to follow mainstream fashion as beachwear became more scant and many women less restrained about showing more of their bodies. Topless sunbathing was widespread in Europe from the eighties and occasionally tolerated on some British Beaches weather permitting!

The film indudstry seems to have followed this (as with the trend for tattoing) and gone all the way - even the men shave now!

I guess it permits easier lighting and a clearer view, particularly with the current obsession for anal penetration.

So, what is the final analysis? I reckon it is simply that the industry is uncertain and watches what others do like hawks. As soon a 'novel' feature is displayed, all jump on the bandwagon and it becomes a norm by sheer repetition. What would happen if one model shaved her head, just like Britney Spears? Any bets that this would become mainstream within a year?

Sorry to have rambled on so long, but I am old enough to have actually been there, as a spectator, as often as I could when the law was very, very forbidding in the UK. That is why, to see now the UNRETOUCHED vaginas of Harrison Marks's models in pictures on the web is such a pleasure. They at last look like real women.

Best wishes to all you youngsters out there!

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Concerning the cum shots, I think it's a different story. The reason why they wanted to show us the ejaculation was to prevent us from thinking the male actors didn't cum. So every cumshot in porn as long as I can remember was visible. But in the old porn movies it was usually on a girl's belly, on her back, over her pussy or over her tits. In the face, especially over her open mouth was very exeptional, exept the faked oral cumshots. And those were done that way so the actor could play a second scene right after. And that bothered me a lot almost never to see a real cumshot in a girl's mouth! I wanted to see them take it on their tongues for real but I rarely ever got such a scene. Why did I want to see them take it there? Simple, there's nothing "hot" about a girl taking it on her back or belly. If the girl takes it in the mouth, she's so much hotter. Only by the late 1980's did the people in the porn industry figure that out. Too bad by that time girls like Jane Baker (I only saw her take a few faked shots and anly a few real drops in her last scene in Les Petites écoliéres), Brigitte Lahaie, Ursula Gaussmann, Marilyn Jess and such had left the industry. Boy, I would sell my soul to the devil to see a real cumshot on Jane Baker's face. But the good news is, I haven't seen all of her movies yet. So maybe one day ...
I thought Shauna Grant never took a facial untill 3 years ago. Man, I thought I went to haven when I say her cumshots in "early years" and "swedish erotica".
So please, if anyone has such a scene with Jane Baker, PLEASE post.
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