Things Noticeable this week - Page 3431

**charliels531** · July 18th, 2018, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scoundrel

While I acknowledge that he has not yet had his day in court, if he should in fact turn out to be an innocent man, wrongly traduced by the media coverage, his story will be worthy of a Franz Kafka novel.

Only if he has six legs and antennae.

**Devius** · July 18th, 2018, 09:36 AM

Sir Cliff Richard has won his privacy case against the BBC over its coverage of a police raid on his home.

High Court judge Mr Justice Mann awarded an initial £210,000 in damages.

The singer claimed the BBC's reporting of the 2014 raid, which was part of an investigation into historical child sex allegations, was a "serious invasion" of privacy.

Sir Cliff was never arrested or charged over the allegations, which dated back to 1985.

The judge said the BBC had infringed Sir Cliff's privacy rights in a "serious" and "sensationalist" way.

Details:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44871799

**Greenman** · July 18th, 2018, 02:51 PM

Hmm after all that trauma perhaps Sir Cliff needs a summer holiday for a lot longer than a week or two.

**judy84** · July 18th, 2018, 02:58 PM

While this is all well and good it is not the commissioning editor or anyone else at the BBC who will have to pay this £210,000 fine.

Just about all the funding for the BBC comes from the UK public (with some from the EU for propaganda purposes). Almost everyone has to pay the licence fee. This is by law with punishment of jail ultimately if the licence fee is not paid.

I might be wrong or out of date with this, it is just my initial reaction...please correct me if I am wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Televi...United_Kingdom

**Wendigo** · July 18th, 2018, 03:17 PM

You are technically right judy84 but as with so many things they use a velvet fist in a cotton wool glove

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ng-guidelines/

I believe if the BBC start to run short of £ they are considering taking away the exemption for Attic dwellers not to have a TV licence as they don't tend to watch the BBC just the odd seedy adult channels

.... or so I've heard

**Roubignol** · July 18th, 2018, 03:21 PM

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La Pologne enregistre des pertes « très importantes » de récoltes de blé en raison de la sécheresse.

La Pologne va demander une aide de la Commission européenne pour lutter contre les effets de la sécheresse qui frappe plusieurs régions du pays, rapporte vendredi l’agence polonaise de presse (PAP).

Face à la sécheresse et les chaleurs inhabituelles que connaît le pays, Varsovie demandera officiellement une aide à la Commission européenne, ajoute l’agence de presse qui cite une source officielle, notant que le ministre polonais de l’agriculture, Jan Krzysztof Ardanowski abordera cette question lors d’une réunion prévue lundi prochain à Bruxelles.

Lors de cette réunion, poursuit la même source, le ministre polonais doit s’entretenir notamment avec le commissaire européen à l’Agriculture et au Développement rural, Phil Hogan, et le commissaire européen à la santé et à la sécurité alimentaire, Vytenis Andriukaitis et devrait présenter un exposé sur la sécheresse dans le pays.

Jan Parandowski devra également aborder avec les responsables européens la coopération dans la lutte contre le virus de la Peste Porcine qui se répand lentement dans les Pays Baltes et dans la partie Est de la Pologne, ajoute la même source.

Selon l’Institut agricole polonais IUNG, la moitié du territoire polonais est touchée par la sécheresse et ce sont les céréales qui risquent d’en pâtir le plus.

Le Premier ministre polonais Mateusz Morawiecki avait mis en garde dernièrement contre des pertes « très importantes » de récoltes de blé en raison de la sécheresse qui frappe une grande partie du pays.

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Poland records "very large" losses of wheat crops due to drought.

Poland will seek help from the European Commission to fight the effects of drought in several parts of the country, reports the Polish News Agency (PAP) on Friday.

In the face of the drought and the unusual heat that the country is experiencing, Warsaw will officially request assistance to the European Commission, adds the news agency quoting an official source, noting that the Polish Minister of Agriculture, Jan Krzysztof Ardanowski will address this question at a meeting scheduled for next Monday in Brussels.

At the meeting, the source added, the Polish minister is due to meet with EU Commissioner for Agriculture and Rural Development Phil Hogan and European Commissioner for Health and Food Safety Vytenis Andriukaitis and should make a presentation on drought in the country.

Jan Parandowski will also have to discuss with European officials cooperation in the fight against the swine plague virus that is spreading slowly in the Baltic States and in the eastern part of Poland, the source added.

According to the Polish Agricultural Institute IUNG, half of the Polish territory is affected by drought and it is cereals that are likely to suffer the most.

Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki had recently warned of "very large" losses of wheat crops due to drought in much of the country.

"Very important" losses of wheat crops in Poland

**CARLTON BROWN** · July 18th, 2018, 04:31 PM

I'm not a fan of Cliff's music, I don't share his God interest and I don't know if he's gay or not. I have met him and he really is a very nice, genuine person. Having read some of the evidence against him, it was (IMHO) total bollocks and plod/CPS should have been ashamed even considering it. But they steamed ahead as any big celeb was worth a shake-down. Then the Beeb was tipped off about the raid. And they have a lengthy history of fucking up peoples reputations and careers by reporting details they shouldn't on TV and treated it like entertainment.

Most recently, a nurse was named and virtually accused on TV of being a mass murderer, without any evidence. Prior to that there have been many others. Paul Gambaccini is just one celeb given a very hard time, who comes to mind.

And meanwhile, the court injunction still stands regarding reporting of possibly Britain's best known music artist and his sex life and the leading actor in a internationally famous period drama who had a taste for very expensive prostitutes and liked being pegged by them. It's certainly nice having high level connections and the best law firms available, because you can stop the media reporting almost immediately in most of the UK. Of course, in the case of Cliffy, the damage was swift and people who simply didn't like his music were ready to jump on the bandwagon and say they always knew he a bit of a perv.

Sadly, the BBC News reporting is now close to "out of control" and starts to look like an attempt at social engineering more often than not.

We've just had a week or two of Trump bashing at every opportunity, with smirking John Sopel trying his best not to make snide comments about the POTUS and Panorama trying to smear Trump's sex life. That's not to say I'm a huge fan of Trump, but anything to please the snowflakes seems okay with the BBC. I just wonder how many BBC viewers have been aware of the serious French riots in Nantes, the same in Northern Ireland, the Irish Government attempt at Jew bashing that took US intervention to stop, the extra British troops sent to Afghanistan, many more knifings that are no longer reported and so-on. All conveniently ignored!

The BBC is out of control and personally, I would love to see this bloated, we-know-best abomination forced into privatisation.

**vannax** · July 18th, 2018, 06:09 PM

What the hell are they teaching students in universities today?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...-hewas-racist/

**Greenman** · July 18th, 2018, 06:24 PM

Great to see those kids back as a team after their terrible ordeal in the caves of Thailand-all of them mini heroes and hopefully they won't be hounded by the press and media too much.

Also noticed that the Now That's What I Call Music compilation records/tapes/cds etc will be reaching an historic 100th edition. Does anybody have any of these? If I remember correctly the advert had the late Brian Glover doing the voice-over "20 piggin' hits" and a picture of a pig in a tweed jacket on the cover of the albums. I know one person who has two of those original vinyl albums.

**SanteeFats** · July 18th, 2018, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vannax

What the hell are they teaching students in universities today?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...-hewas-racist/

I guess UC Berkley exported their stupidity.

July 18th, 2018, 09:36 AM	#34302
Devius Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: It's a London Thing.... Posts: 23,533 Thanks: 142,186 Thanked 228,458 Times in 23,566 Posts	Cliff Richard: Singer wins BBC coverage case at High Court Sir Cliff Richard has won his privacy case against the BBC over its coverage of a police raid on his home. High Court judge Mr Justice Mann awarded an initial £210,000 in damages. The singer claimed the BBC's reporting of the 2014 raid, which was part of an investigation into historical child sex allegations, was a "serious invasion" of privacy. Sir Cliff was never arrested or charged over the allegations, which dated back to 1985. The judge said the BBC had infringed Sir Cliff's privacy rights in a "serious" and "sensationalist" way. Details: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44871799 __________________ "I've had it with them, I've had it with you, I've had it with ALL THIS - I WANT ROOM SERVICE!* I want the club sandwich, I want the cold Mexican beer, I want a $10,000-a-night hooker!"* Johnny Mnemonic (1995)

July 18th, 2018, 03:17 PM	#34305
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July 18th, 2018, 04:31 PM	#34307
CARLTON BROWN Grand Vizier Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ruraltania Posts: 3,219 Thanks: 35,687 Thanked 35,626 Times in 3,211 Posts	Trial By Media I'm not a fan of Cliff's music, I don't share his God interest and I don't know if he's gay or not. I have met him and he really is a very nice, genuine person. Having read some of the evidence against him, it was (IMHO) total bollocks and plod/CPS should have been ashamed even considering it. But they steamed ahead as any big celeb was worth a shake-down. Then the Beeb was tipped off about the raid. And they have a lengthy history of fucking up peoples reputations and careers by reporting details they shouldn't on TV and treated it like entertainment. Most recently, a nurse was named and virtually accused on TV of being a mass murderer, without any evidence. Prior to that there have been many others. Paul Gambaccini is just one celeb given a very hard time, who comes to mind. And meanwhile, the court injunction still stands regarding reporting of possibly Britain's best known music artist and his sex life and the leading actor in a internationally famous period drama who had a taste for very expensive prostitutes and liked being pegged by them. It's certainly nice having high level connections and the best law firms available, because you can stop the media reporting almost immediately in most of the UK. Of course, in the case of Cliffy, the damage was swift and people who simply didn't like his music were ready to jump on the bandwagon and say they always knew he a bit of a perv. Sadly, the BBC News reporting is now close to "out of control" and starts to look like an attempt at social engineering more often than not. We've just had a week or two of Trump bashing at every opportunity, with smirking John Sopel trying his best not to make snide comments about the POTUS and Panorama trying to smear Trump's sex life. That's not to say I'm a huge fan of Trump, but anything to please the snowflakes seems okay with the BBC. I just wonder how many BBC viewers have been aware of the serious French riots in Nantes, the same in Northern Ireland, the Irish Government attempt at Jew bashing that took US intervention to stop, the extra British troops sent to Afghanistan, many more knifings that are no longer reported and so-on. All conveniently ignored! The BBC is out of control and personally, I would love to see this bloated, we-know-best abomination forced into privatisation.

July 18th, 2018, 06:09 PM	#34308
vannax Vintage Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ontario Posts: 2,257 Thanks: 7,213 Thanked 15,670 Times in 2,231 Posts	What the hell are they teaching students in universities today? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...-hewas-racist/ __________________ Freedom carries a terrible price, but it's still a bargain compared to every alternative. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

July 18th, 2018, 06:24 PM	#34309
Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,538 Times in 19,356 Posts	Great to see those kids back as a team after their terrible ordeal in the caves of Thailand-all of them mini heroes and hopefully they won't be hounded by the press and media too much. Also noticed that the Now That's What I Call Music compilation records/tapes/cds etc will be reaching an historic 100th edition. Does anybody have any of these? If I remember correctly the advert had the late Brian Glover doing the voice-over "20 piggin' hits" and a picture of a pig in a tweed jacket on the cover of the albums. I know one person who has two of those original vinyl albums. __________________ There was only ONE Greenman, and you accepted no substitutes! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Rest in peace MaxJoker-you will be sorely missed. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 20,000: Milestone reached!

July 18th, 2018, 02:51 PM	#34303
Greenman Live Legend of VEF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Underground lair somewhere in the world Posts: 20,353 Thanks: 30,936 Thanked 383,538 Times in 19,356 Posts	Hmm after all that trauma perhaps Sir Cliff needs a summer holiday for a lot longer than a week or two.

July 18th, 2018, 02:58 PM	#34304
judy84 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Wilts Posts: 2,008 Thanks: 34,481 Thanked 21,442 Times in 2,021 Posts	While this is all well and good it is not the commissioning editor or anyone else at the BBC who will have to pay this £210,000 fine. Just about all the funding for the BBC comes from the UK public (with some from the EU for propaganda purposes). Almost everyone has to pay the licence fee. This is by law with punishment of jail ultimately if the licence fee is not paid. I might be wrong or out of date with this, it is just my initial reaction...please correct me if I am wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Televi...United_Kingdom