President Donald Trump's Final Days...

[LadyLuck]

Originally Posted by diamelsx

Like they did not have a series of these when Obama was in office. Porn parodies and novelty presidents go hand and hand.

Obama, Palin and Trump are the subjects of porn parodies. Bill Clinton was a porn parody.

Hillary wishes she was hot enough to be the subject of a porn parody.

[LaughingBoy]

I pursued a girl to New York one time, and so happened to be in Manhattan when 9/11 happened. As the city (and world) was in shock following that surreal day, every politician was making political hay and saying very predictable and maintain status quo kinds of things. It was frustrating for me.

Bill Clinton was in town to give a previously scheduled keynote speech to a convention of state governors. Say what you like about Bill Clinton's missteps(he's had a couple), but the man is a Rhodes scholar. He's probably the smartest president in at least the last 50 years. The speech he gave that day outlined the history of the middle east. It was informative and gave everyone who heard it, an idea of what we are up against when we meddle in the middle east. I missed him so much on that day. Intelligent discourse is pretty cool.

The US does a pretty good job of selling bullets to the world. Weirdly, whenever there's a problem, the military solution is usually the one that's installed. This makes the Department of Defense pretty happy as they've got all these bullets just laying around waiting to "defend" stuff.

So when a drone strike takes out a wedding party, it's more than just a PR problem. You've turned the happiest day for lots of people present into the saddest day. Vendetta, I've heard, was invented in the Middle East. So, when the US tries to make Big Oil and Big Bullet happy by using all these shiny toys and bombing the piss out of stuff, lots more people are unhappy. And pissed off. And un-inclined to see America wearing the white hat and selling blue jeans.

The West has a very long history of Screwing things up in the Middle East.

[Dr Pepper]

Originally Posted by LaughingBoy

The West has a very long history of Screwing things up in the Middle East.

....and not just the Middle East-Africa as well...ever since our colonial forbears thought it was a good idea (in the interests of good, tidy administration, of course!) to draw straight lines on the map,regardless of existing tribal/ethnic/religious divides and migratory patterns....

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by Dr Pepper

....and not just the Middle East-Africa as well...ever since our colonial forbears thought it was a good idea (in the interests of good, tidy administration, of course!) to draw straight lines on the map,regardless of existing tribal/ethnic/religious divides and migratory patterns....

The lines on the map thing can be overdone. For example, where is "Kurdistan"? Hutus and Tutsis live in Burundi as well as in Rwanda, but is there a historic defined territory and borders where each group used to live in peace with the other group until the naughty bad Europeans came along? Were there clearly defined pre-existing borders in the middle of the desert dividing the provinces of the Ottoman Empire?

The logic of the colonial borders was the logic of cake slicing. But the alternative pre-existing natural and logical borders were not really there.

[hound dog]

Originally Posted by LadyLuck

In case you have not been paying attention to places like Germany and the England (and obviously you have not) the rest of the world isn't chock full of leadership waiting to take the helm.

I'm looking more at Merkel, Macron and Trudeau at the moment. It's much easier to fall down than it is to raise ones self up. The USA has fallen far in the past 6 months and we'll have to give other world leaders time to fill the void that President Trump has seemingly abdicated and isn't intellectually able to fill....

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by hound dog

I'm looking more at Merkel, Macron and Trudeau at the moment. It's much easier to fall down than it is to raise ones self up. The USA has fallen far in the past 6 months and we'll have to give other world leaders time to fill the void that President Trump has seemingly abdicated and isn't intellectually able to fill....

It is easy to suppose that Mr Trump is not the sharpest tool in the box but I don't think that hr is stupid in the strict meaning of this word. I think he has good average intelligence: I bet his IQ is somewhere in the 120s.

What is missing is emotional maturity. This man reacts very badly to being challenged; if you cross his will it becomes personal very quickly. He doesn't mind who he offends or insults and yet is awfully thin-skinned himself. He is unsuitable for his position in much the same way that King Herod the Great was unsuitable to run an infant daycare centre.

At least he kept Hillary Clinton out and justly punished the Democrats for selling America in promissary notes to the highest bidder via the Clinton Foundation.

[LadyLuck]

Originally Posted by scoundrel

At least he kept Hillary Clinton out and justly punished the Democrats for selling America in promissary notes to the highest bidder via the Clinton Foundation.

And he saved the Supreme Court for at least another generation. Technically, Joe Biden saved the SCOTUS for the conservatives but Trump eliminated Hillary's chance to load the court. People get so caught up in what Trump is tweeting day by day that they lost sight (or never grasped in the first place) of how monumental that one aspect (SCOTUS) was in this election. Justice Kennedy is flirting with the idea of retirement and Justice Ginsberg is not in good health. Had she known that Trump was going to be the next president I am certain she would have stepped down in 2015.

The only obstruction Trump is guilty of is obstructing Hillary from moving into the White House and wrecking the SCOTUS for our lifetimes.

[BustyWomenLovr]

Yes - having sold the country to Putin is so much better than the Clinton red herring.

[scoundrel]

Originally Posted by BustyEscortLovr

Yes - having sold the country to Putin is so much better than the Clinton red herring.

The poet Humbert Wolfe once wrote a noted verse:

You cannot hope to bribe or twist,
Thank God!, the British journalist.

But seeing what the man will do,
unbribed, there's no occasion to.

No need to suborn Mr Trump if the purpose is to tempt him into a biased and unwise decision. In Mr Putin's case, flattery was effective in the short run, because Mr Trump is really vain and enjoyed being buttered up by the leader of another superpower.

But actually Mr Putin has not bought either Mr Trump or America. Witness the missile strike against official Syrian government forces recently. In the long run, even if you did buy Donald Trump, it would be like buying a screwdriver made in China. The tool is too low quality to last long; and Mr Trump is too erratic and emotional to stay bought for long.

[diamelsx]

Originally Posted by LadyLuck

And he saved the Supreme Court for at least another generation. Technically, Joe Biden saved the SCOTUS for the conservatives but Trump eliminated Hillary's chance to load the court. People get so caught up in what Trump is tweeting day by day that they lost sight (or never grasped in the first place) of how monumental that one aspect (SCOTUS) was in this election. Justice Kennedy is flirting with the idea of retirement and Justice Ginsberg is not in good health. Had she known that Trump was going to be the next president I am certain she would have stepped down in 2015.

The only obstruction Trump is guilty of is obstructing Hillary from moving into the White House and wrecking the SCOTUS for our lifetimes.

As far as the court goes too many on the left saw little contrast between Hillary's and Trump's vision of the court, especially fiscally. They saw Obama's pick as being too far to the right and they knew that Hillary was not going to the left of that, so they felt they were losing either way which may help explain why a lot on the left stayed home this last election. Funny how the media always points out the voter suppression tactics the right, yet is silent about the tactics done by the est... I mean the left.