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Old November 16th, 2016, 10:47 PM   #27141
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We've been in the EU for decades, and they still can't speak proper English.

Surely the decision to leave was the correct one
Proper English vas not ze plan. Goose Stepping is.
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Old November 16th, 2016, 11:01 PM   #27142
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So how that gonna happen Uli? 'You pay us, we don't pay you.' so we do not import your goods! Cars from Japan, the US, Korea, India and China, increase of domestic sales for Land Rover Jaguar, Rolls Royce and Bentley, despite German ownership are still made here. Dairy products from home and imported from the commonwealth, as it was before we joined the common market, NOT the Federal EU, EU boats banned from our fishing and territorial waters, so plenty of home produced goods, the threat lies precisely where?

Domestic white goods made here, your corporate bosses are going to love that!!!

Perhaps the EU will declare war on us! Err perhaps not, for the last few hundred years they do seem to have come second to us in those, unlike football!
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So how that gonna happen Uli? 'You pay us, we don't pay you.' so we do not import your goods! Cars from Japan, the US, Korea, India and China, increase of domestic sales for Land Rover Jaguar, Rolls Royce and Bentley, despite German ownership are still made here. Dairy products from home and imported from the commonwealth, as it was before we joined the common market, NOT the Federal EU, EU boats banned from our fishing and territorial waters, so plenty of home produced goods, the threat lies precisely where?

Domestic white goods made here, your corporate bosses are going to love that!!!

Perhaps the EU will declare war on us! Err perhaps not, for the last few hundred years they do seem to have come second to us in those, unlike football!
Do not think that you may escape the clutches of the globalists so easily.
All of NATO is against you, except, now, the USA.
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Old November 17th, 2016, 12:28 AM   #27144
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Looks like the EU forgot it's meds, again:

EU chiefs dismiss eurosceptic revolution as RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...IAN-PROPAGANDA
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Old November 17th, 2016, 08:24 AM   #27145
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Sorry Uli, they do have a plan, simple, you charge us tariffs, we charge you tariffs plus ten per cent, watch Ms Merkel deal with the CEOs of VAG, Mercedes Benz, BMW, Siemens, Bosch et al, and then watch the other Prime Ministers and Presidents deal with all their exporters,and so on through out Europe, like all sensible people, she is keeping her hand well hidden before she goes to see the little dictator in Brussels.

You insist on free movement, we introduce visa and entry requirements, and so on. She is going to be like Margaret Thatcher, Hard as Sheffield Steel, another EU destroyed British Industry.
All the former Brexit supporters have zero trust in MPs and Parliament which is understandable.

What I don't understand is why you would trust Theresa May unconditionally and want to give her a totally free hand with no oversight.

She was a remain campaigner (all conveniently forgotten now) and has already done a complete U-Turn once on this issue (all motivated more it seems by personal ambition than principle)
She has also already done a complete U-Turn on the ECHR due to political expediency.

If any thing is to be learned here is that she easily caves in and gives up or changes her principles.

All she has said is 'Brexit means Brexit' - basically nothing meaningful for the last six months.

The only pledge she seems to have made on Brexit is to the foreign owned corporate giant Nissan that there won't be any tariffs on their exports. A lot of other corporate giants are going to be likewise holding a gun to her head now to get similar pledges.

She has none of the international respect, charisma or personal rapport with other foreign leaders like Thatcher. Nor has she been democratically endorsed as PM like Thatcher emphatically was
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I find it almost hilarious that MP's who couldn't be bothered to read any of the treaties that got us deeper into this spiders web of deceit now want full oversight of every little detail of the negotiations. If you have to negotiate, you pick a team and tell them to get on with it. You don't ask the opinion of every arsehole snouting at the trough. Once the details are almost agreed upon then that is the time to put them to MPs (or even the people again, seeing as though the MP's are too busy filling in their claim forms).
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Looks like the EU forgot it's meds, again:

EU chiefs dismiss eurosceptic revolution as RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...IAN-PROPAGANDA
Always the attitude of the self important bureaucrats of the EU and pro EU lobby. We are perfect and if you don't agree you are wrong, we pretend to respect freedom of thought, freedom of choice and if you don't agree, you are stupid therefore subhuman, and, as we did in Ireland, if you reject us, we will force you to vote, until you are fed up with it and give us the result we want.

Democracy EU style! Watched a news report last night, free elections in China, an opposition candidate was willing to be interviewed by a reporter, he had permission, but a lot of men with red arm bands blocked her in her house, and the journalist outside. Preventing the interview. Sounds just like the EU really. Free vote, but not against us! In China the Communist Party selects the opposition candidates as well! Next EU Law?
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Why does your Queen have to sign the bill?? I thought HRH was basically a figurehead??
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Why does your Queen have to sign the bill?? I thought HRH was basically a figurehead??
I'm not too familiar with Great Britain's constitution, but in Germany the rule is very similar: all federal laws have to be signed by the President (the Head of State) before they can come into effect.
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