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Old May 10th, 2018, 07:16 PM   #2241
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Many major food outlets don't proudly trumpet that their meat is kosher. They do with halal.
That was not the sens of my question. I suppose you understand it.
Both are barbaries.
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A bit of a stretch for this thread IMO.
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I strongly oppose halal being allowed. As a species we treat other animals badly enough without the barbarity of halal. Recently many high street names have switched to halal for various reasons. Anyone supporting this should be ashamed.
I'm not gonna defend halal (nor kosher), and ritual slaughter is a downright disgusting thing. But i wonder if those muslims (or jews) treat their animals better while they are alive then we do.

Chickens and pigs often get treated so badly here that even a gory death feels like a mercy killing...

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Many major food outlets don't proudly trumpet that their meat is kosher. They do with halal.
The only reason for that is potential profit, if they think they could attract more jewish customers, they would advertise kosher meat like crazy.
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I just read in a book about "freedom", a staggering fact that I never listen reported in my ears by the medias.
As we all know, when a jihadist commits suicide, he then hopes to have at his disposal a large number of virgins to the paradise.

Until now, nothing new to me.

But a fact that I did not know was narrated by the author of the book: "And the unbelievers who were killed by the martyr will also be saved to the paradise."

If this theory is proven, I understand better why our medias never talk about it, because it is a colossal for all the potential martyrs.
I am just wondering where all the virgins are coming from? Certainly this planet does not provide enough. Or, perhaps all these virgins aren't female. Isn't it impossible for Allah to have made a mistake in providing us with so many lesbians and queers? Can anybody explain to me what is in this arrangement for the benefit of the virgins?
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I am just wondering where all the virgins are coming from? Certainly this planet does not provide enough. Or, perhaps all these virgins aren't female. Isn't it impossible for Allah to have made a mistake in providing us with so many lesbians and queers? Can anybody explain to me what is in this arrangement for the benefit of the virgins?
Well who says the virgins all female??? I have heard they do like goats or camels????
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Well who says the virgins all female??? I have heard they do like goats or camels????
I had forgotten about the camels, goats, and sheep. Thanks.
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All I know about slaughter is that the slaughterhouse smells bad. But I feel agnostic about the idea that ritual slaughter is cruel, whereas atheistic/non-ritual slaughter is humane. If I were the fatted calf, I wouldn't much like the prospect of either.

In Cassell's History of England the book told the story of the capture and execution of one of the men who had murdered King Edward II in a dungeon. He was unmasked by the captain and crew of a ship on which he tried to escape to France and according to the tale in the book, the captain didn't want his blood on the deck. Therefore the man was offered the choice of having his head cut off over the bows of the ship or over the stern of the ship. The book concluded drily:
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I am just wondering where all the virgins are coming from? Certainly this planet does not provide enough. Or, perhaps all these virgins aren't female. Isn't it impossible for Allah to have made a mistake in providing us with so many lesbians and queers? Can anybody explain to me what is in this arrangement for the benefit of the virgins?
By Allah, Brian... You are far too materialistic. Allah can create billion of virgins from.... nothing.
Allah is Allah. He created the air, the planets, the universe and he spends his time to look at us creating in his image.

BTW. There was an excellent sketch written by a French humorist (Dieudonné), mimicking the preparations of the terrorists before the 9/11 attack.
He played the coordinator who answered the questions of the martyrs.

Among these questions were:

- "How many virgins will we have?"

Answer: -"1000 per martyr"

And one of the martyrs asked: "And can I have 9 year old boys?"

And the coordinator replied "shocked": "Oh we had not thought about that. But... yes, for sure ... it can be done."



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All I know about slaughter is that the slaughterhouse smells bad. But I feel agnostic about the idea that ritual slaughter is cruel, whereas atheistic/non-ritual slaughter is humane. If I were the fatted calf, I wouldn't much like the prospect of either.

In Cassell's History of England the book told the story of the capture and execution of one of the men who had murdered King Edward II in a dungeon. He was unmasked by the captain and crew of a ship on which he tried to escape to France and according to the tale in the book, the captain didn't want his blood on the deck. Therefore the man was offered the choice of having his head cut off over the bows of the ship or over the stern of the ship. The book concluded drily:
I already watched ritual slaughters of camels and sheeps. They don't cut the head, they only cut the throat first. Then they let the animal agonising several ten seconds.

I also watched Occidental slaughterhouses, some of them are horrible places where sufferings are as shocking as ritual slaughters I watched.
But others are far more efficient. The pig comes, the killer put two electrodes on both parts of his head. Bzzzz. Massive electric shock and the pig was dead.

One among the problems in slaughterhouses are the rythms of executions. The executors have to follow very intense rythms today and not always can correctly execute the aminals.

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I find it interesting that when Arab terrorists launch all the atrocities and attacks this thread gets some posts. Yet Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation on earth and it is exploding in terrorist attacks. Even whole families including the children going into churches and Ka-bang.


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I find it interesting that when Arab terrorists launch all the atrocities and attacks this thread gets some posts. Yet Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation on earth and it is exploding in terrorist attacks. Even whole families including the children going into churches and Ka-bang.
So, we messed up the translation and Islam is a religion of pieces?
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